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Williams digital pianos - troubleshooting or parts anyone? #2193523
12/06/13 02:21 PM
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I have a Williams Concerto console - type electric piano (purchased in 2007 from Guitar Center) that probably has a damaged (main) logic board, and I'm looking for a replacement board. Or a parts piano that would have this same board inside. I have taken this piano to a local electronics repair store and that is what they determined, but could not get the part for it. I contacted Williams company myself and they said they have no more parts in their stock for this piano.

They sent me a PDF file of technical service manual for this. The repairman looked at it and said it just needed a new logic(or main) board; that the board itself couldn't be repaired.

I've been searching posts on forums across the web and found one where someone in the UK had a piano they said had the same "innards"(to put it in his term) as the Williams Concerto, but didn't say what he had. His post was about a 2007 or 2008 post and he didn't reply to me.

Is anyone aware of any keyboard parts warehouse or something like that?

Williams company has no more parts in their stock.

This whole situation sucks because, the number of hours spent playing this piano I could count on two hands. When my child got tall enough to reach the power button, she pushed it on and off a few times and then the piano just quick working. Seemed like a blown fuse, I opened it, found the fuse and replaced it, it started but then immediately blew that fuse too. The repairman was able to get it working, but the volume is stuck all the way up and the number "7" doesn't work on the keypad for entering in voice numbers.
I also found a post on the http://ep-forum.com website where someone had an identical situation to mine, in that his child pressed the power button until the keyboard quit working.

If you've read this far, I appreciate your patience! And any info you may have to offer!

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Re: Williams digital pianos - troubleshooting or parts anyone? [Re: trumpetsound] #2193670
12/06/13 08:55 PM
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I would cut my losses if I were you. There's no value for investing more money in an instrument that is already on the cheap end of the spectrum and has no manufacturer backup. I know this must be very disappointing to hear, but I think it's the truth. Rather than scouring the Earth for a very rare component (which may have issues itself), invest that money in a good second-hand, recent, brand-name instrument. I think you'll be happier with that result and it will still be repairable.

Re: Williams digital pianos - troubleshooting or parts anyone? [Re: trumpetsound] #2193671
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In other words? The best replacement part for a Williams is another brand DP.


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Re: Williams digital pianos - troubleshooting or parts anyone? [Re: trumpetsound] #2193693
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I think you are better off buying a new DP, and not a Williams, as the other posters have said. I'm sorry, but you have probably gotten all you can out of your other DP. On the bright side, there's a lot of better instruments out there for many different price points, so I'm sure you will find something that will bring you years of enjoyment.

Think about what you are able to invest, and I'm sure the great people here can help you find the best bargain for your buck .


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Re: Williams digital pianos - troubleshooting or parts anyone? [Re: trumpetsound] #2193801
12/07/13 04:31 AM
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How much d`ya think that new part could cost? I had to have a new motherboard (who invents these terms?) for a new Kawai CN 270. It cast somebody around 300, so they told me . . . I paid that for the piano I have now. . . .


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Re: Williams digital pianos - troubleshooting or parts anyone? [Re: peterws] #2196910
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No! Don't throw away this valuable antique of the future! Mr Gyro will be along to give you a valuation very shortly...


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Re: Williams digital pianos - troubleshooting or parts anyone? [Re: Aidan] #2197394
12/14/13 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Aidan
No! Don't throw away this valuable antique of the future! Mr Gyro will be along to give you a valuation very shortly...


That made me laugh, thanks!

To the original poster, don't throw good money after bad; buy a new keyboard and send your Williams to the recycling center.


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Re: Williams digital pianos - troubleshooting or parts anyone? [Re: trumpetsound] #2197407
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Gyro--- yes, thank you; I had forgotten his name. The man named for a sandwich.

I hope the OP did not spank his child, for it did him a favor in this case. There are not that many products you can destroy just by turning them on. Frankly, I was impressed that you could even get it half-working again.


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Re: Williams digital pianos - troubleshooting or parts anyone? [Re: trumpetsound] #2535609
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Could you post the manual, please? I have same problem.

Re: Williams digital pianos - troubleshooting or parts anyone? [Re: trumpetsound] #2535663
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I would go with all of the other posters have said. Williams is the house brand for Guitar Center. The one I've played is notably unimpressive even compared to my used Yamaha P105. Yamaha, Casio, Roland, and Kawai all make far better instruments. Take a look at some of those first.


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Re: Williams digital pianos - troubleshooting or parts anyone? [Re: sedaray] #2535679
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Originally Posted by sedaray
Could you post the manual, please? I have same problem.
The OP made only this one single post here, 2.5 years ago. I doubt that he'll see your request for the manual, or that he's even still reading this forum...

Re: Williams digital pianos - troubleshooting or parts anyone? [Re: JoBert] #2535686
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I just been reading a bit about the Chinese piano industry. Their digitals appear to be previous generation stuff with dubious keyboards etc; they will produce stuff with any name for a distributer to advertise and sell under.

I read particularly about the Classenti cdp 3 model, sold (but not now) by somebody called Graham Howard at UKPianos or something. It looks a million dollars, theres one on ebay going for silly money (low) and theres Youtube videos of a Russian teacher, and also Howard, seperately playing this.

Ive never heard a digital sound so much like an acoustic upright. Not ever. . .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dlgxSFczZmE

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