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Brodmann PE 125
#253419 04/14/08 06:46 PM
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I know there have been a few topics discussing this very same line of piano before, as I have searched and read them. However, some of the responses seem fake and seem like it's just a dealer wanting the oblivious user to buy from them so they make money. So, I would like some fresh, new outlooks on this piano and piano manufacturer. I have a few questions:

1) What are some individual opinions and the general consensus on this model?
2) Would $5500 be an acceptable deal for a new one of these?

Thanks for any help.

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Sabre:

You're the only one able to answer the question.

As dealers for certain makes [ please note:we are Brodmann dealers ourselves..] the question is before many dealers almost everyday.

Some like to jump on the bandwagon and shout "YES" - others prefer to have their customers try out on all kinds of other pianos and come to a conclusion themselves.

Which way to find things out, do you prefer?

Norbert


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Re: Brodmann PE 125
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Well, I am asking this because I have already bought the piano, and I was fully satisfied with it's touch and tone in the store, and after looking through many other pianos in my budget this is the one that really called to me, although higher than I would have liked to pay. The $5500 seems a bit steep to me, I just want to make sure I was not ripped off.

(note: I'm only a high school student, and my mom did all the paying, so the Is aren't really accurate, but you get what I mean. :p However, my mom also fell in love with the tone of it, and is satisfied paying $6000 for it, although the piano is for me, as no one else in the family plays)

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Well, I am asking this because I have already bought the piano, and I was fully satisfied with it's touch and tone in the store, and after looking through many other pianos in my budget this is the one that really called to me, although higher than I would have liked to pay.
Aha - some after-shopping - smart girl... wink

To be honest, the price on these and similiar pianos has perhaps not been completely established in the market place, but you seem to be very much in the ballpark.

It's a 49' upright and one of the best uprights Brodmann makes.

If it sells next year for $ 3000, we can both shoot each other, if it's selling for more than what you paid [very likely..] - we can both celebrate together.

P.S. I like celebrations, let's aim for that...

Norbert smile


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Haha, actually, I'm male. :p

Ah, okay, I was worried because it seemed a bit steep, I didn't want to pay more than what was necessary. I'm glad that wasn't the case. smile Thank you Norbert, although you may be a Brodmann dealer you seem to be very honest in your word.

However, word differs from person to person, does anyone else have any opinions on this piano?

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I saw one and it made in China but with upgrade part. My son not like 6 foot grand, say it tin cn sound. My son very finest pianoist.

the uprite piano was on sale for $2,900. i think and not a good piano.

nise looking piano but not have history to tell.

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I saw one and it made in China but with upgrade part.
Fong: what 'part' is this supposed to be?
I'm not aware of such option on the 125.

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Fong:

This is entirely possible but may have nothing to do with the piano itself.

We have many young students come and go and initially 'not like' a European sounding piano, not even an Estonia or Sauter.

We have observed the same over time curiously several times, especially if the kids were primarily raised on one of the more common and widespread Japanese pianos at home.

While we were initially puzzled by this, we have also found, that the 'impregnation' of tonality at early age often carries forth in adolescence, the same as kids being raised on fast food will later fight good home cooked meals.

The transparency of tone so typical and beautiful for European/German instruments [the Chinese built Brodmanns with Strunz soundboard do have a very typical or at least "very close" European tone...] can be a *shock* to many young players having been raised exclusively on this "other food" - as mentioned, we see it all the time...

As a result theses kids may very well 'reject' such piano in the beginning,unable or unwilling to react to the emotional and highly sensible demand by a piano which has totally different tonal character.

[Not sure if Elton John or Jerry Lee Lewis would be happy to perform on a beautifully rebuilt Bluethner from 1885..... laugh ]

Interestingly enough, the trend in later years appears to go exactly the other way - once reaching a more mature, secure and personal point of expressing music, new tone families of the different pianos are being discovered - even sought - then often preferred!

It can't just be a coincidence that we again just sold three of Vancouver's Kiwanis Festival finalists last week a new Brodmann grand, another one an Estonia grand......

In your search,please keep trying pianos you may be initially uncommon with: when I played my own very first Estonia some 14 years ago, my ears loved what they heard - but my brain was shouting at first a very clear *NEIN*!! .

Anybody here got married that way?

Norbert laugh


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