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Jazz piano standards #2529354
04/10/16 08:32 AM
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Hello,

My name is Royce and I will susequently introduce myself in the approriate section.

Wanting to build up a Jazz repertoire I wanted to know the standards (a list of 10-15 to start) and the types of sheet music.
What type of sheet music will I get the mostif I want to play jazz.

1)Just a melody and some name of the chords ?
2)Or some chords and no melody
3)Both ?

Where to find them online ?

Please consider I would like to do some piano bar in a few months let's say. What piece is it good to learn and what should I be aware of ?

Thanks.


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Re: Jazz piano standards [Re: blackpianist] #2529380
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Check out this list of the most popular jazz piano standards:
http://www.jazzstandards.com/compositions/index.htm
Learn about 20 from the top 100, making sure you have a sprinkling of the Blues and Rhythm changes. As a classically trained pianist, you have pretty good sight reading skills so if you want to play in a piano bar in a couple of months, buy some full arrangements of the standards and play through them to get a feel for the style. For example: Cocktail Piano

Ultimately you'll want to make your own arrangements so you need to learn to work from a lead sheet with just melody and chord symbols. You can find many such lead sheets freely available online.

To learn to play from a lead sheet there are many resources on line, some free, some not. Here's one: http://www.jazzypiano.net/cocktail-piano-secrets/ On that website is also a list of what the author considers the most requested songs on the cocktail piano circuit:
As Time Goes By
Over the Rainbow
Girl From Ipanema
Misty
My Way
Summertime
Take Five

Hope this helps!





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Originally Posted by jazzyprof
.....On that website is also a list of what the author considers the most requested songs on the cocktail piano circuit:
As Time Goes By
Over the Rainbow
Girl From Ipanema
Misty
My Way
Summertime
Take Five

You know how when someone talks about great food, we say "You're making me hungry"?

You're making me want to go to a cocktail lounge. grin

Re: Jazz piano standards [Re: blackpianist] #2529658
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This helps ! Thanks

Re: Jazz piano standards [Re: blackpianist] #2529666
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Chords.
I have a pretty good ear, which allows me to "find" melodies on the go.
I would need to know some patterns of chords.

How one would harmonize a F, G, C etc. would remain up to the performer (F7 or F11# etc),
I would just like to be provided chords that sound good when played one after the other

Exemple written on the go :
in C major : C, F, G, F#
in G major : G, D, C, C#, D, G
in C : C, E, A, B
in E : etc...
I am not sure it sounds good I have not tried but It must be pretty decent, correct voicing need still to be done yet.

So basically it's just hopping from tonality to tonality (relatives) while playing some 145 or 236 whatever inside.

Does one have some chord pattern ?
Can you please write is as above ?
in X major/minor : ....
in X ...: etc..

Thanks !

I think I just answered my own question indeed, within a tonality one can do basically what he wants. So my question will be indeed, what's YOUR technique to change tonality ?

In C, if you use F# as a transition chord to go to G
How do you voice it ? F7 or Fdim or F6 etc ?
I am sure it possible to Transition from C to G using an other chord than F# ... Which would be 5 of G (DF#A etc.) Can you use
Any idea ?Thanks

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Re: Jazz piano standards [Re: blackpianist] #2529788
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There are an infinite number of ways to move from one key to another. I think rather than asking people for rules, just look at actual music and see how Gershwin, Kern, Porter and the great composers did it. There is a reason, for example, why All The Things You Are is considered such a classic. Look how Kern moves around in that piece.

Re: Jazz piano standards [Re: blackpianist] #2529976
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Hallo, blackpianist,

I have made recordings of the following Jazz standards:

I hear a rhapsody (Fragos/Baker/Gasparre, 1941)
All the things you are (Kern/Hammerstein, 1939)
Memories of you (Blake/Razaf, 1930)
Star dust (Carmichael, 1927)
But beautiful (van Heusen/Burke, 1947)
You're nobody till somebody loves you (Morgan/Stock/Cavanaugh, 1944)
Mood Indigo (Ellington, 1930)
Laura (Raksin/Mercer, 1944)
Stormy weather (Arlen/Koehler, 1935)
What a difference a day made (Grever/Adams, 1934)

I found the arrangements at the music library in the town where I live, but did not precisely stick to what was written and added and replaced quite a number of things when playing.

I cannot upload the recordings and sheets here since all these pieces are not yet in the public domain. But if you are interested, you may send me a PM with your email address and I can send you some or all of these recordings and scans of the sheet for private use.

Regards from Germany.

Re: Jazz piano standards [Re: blackpianist] #2531590
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You need to get a real book. This is a book of lead sheets for jazz standard tunes. Get either the one published by hal leonard or any of the chuck sher new real books (the first three or so volumes are very useful).

Write me if you want more info!


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