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1901 Steingraeber & Sohne renovation video series #2529678
04/11/16 11:01 AM
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I got so much enjoyment and new knowledge watching the whole 12 videos of this 1901 Steingraeber & Sohne 52" upright renovation.

Hope some of you also like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzwVFr7PyHw&nohtml5=False

ian


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Re: 1901 Steingraeber & Sohne renovation video series [Re: Beemer] #2529712
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Based on the height of the stickers, that looks much taller than 52". Perhaps it's 62".

Re: 1901 Steingraeber & Sohne renovation video series [Re: Beemer] #2529717
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Maybe a typo by the restorer.

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Dies ist die Reparaturdokumentation eines 1901 gebauten, 150 cm hohen Steingräber & Söhne Klaviers

ian

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Re: 1901 Steingraeber & Sohne renovation video series [Re: Beemer] #2529743
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Google thinks it's 59".


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Re: 1901 Steingraeber & Sohne renovation video series [Re: Beemer] #2529791
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Really appreciate the post.

Re: 1901 Steingraeber & Sohne renovation video series [Re: Beemer] #2529983
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Was I the only one surprised that he didn't replace the hammers? He didn't even replace the bridle straps!

Re: 1901 Steingraeber & Sohne renovation video series [Re: Beemer] #2530008
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Just to give everyone a heads-up...

Sadly, Michael Szecsenyi, the piano (re)builder behind the prolific "Klaviermacher" youtube handle, passed away in January. So you won't get any replies to comments or queries. He is sorely missed by many in the German piano community.


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Re: 1901 Steingraeber & Sohne renovation video series [Re: tend to rush] #2530095
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Originally Posted by tend to rush
Was I the only one surprised that he didn't replace the hammers? He didn't even replace the bridle straps!


I think you lived up to your forum name. He clearly did both.

ian


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Re: 1901 Steingraeber & Sohne renovation video series [Re: Mark R.] #2530097
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Michael,

Thanks for advising about his demise.

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Re: 1901 Steingraeber & Sohne renovation video series [Re: Beemer] #2530104
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Originally Posted by Beemer
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Was I the only one surprised that he didn't replace the hammers? He didn't even replace the bridle straps!


I think you lived up to your forum name. He clearly did both.

ian


Don't mean to start an argument, but he clearly sanded, not replaced the hammers. I certainly didn't see replacement straps - the ends were still very old-looking - not the shiny tips usually seen on new ones. Didn't mean for a moment to detract from what was clearly a great job. Just a little surprised that having gone so far - re-stringing, re-pinning, replacing nearly every other felt in the instrument, that he didn't replace the hammers. I'm sure he must've found them in pretty good shape.

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Originally Posted by tend to rush
Originally Posted by Beemer
Originally Posted by tend to rush
Was I the only one surprised that he didn't replace the hammers? He didn't even replace the bridle straps!


I think you lived up to your forum name. He clearly did both.

ian


Don't mean to start an argument, but he clearly sanded, not replaced the hammers. I certainly didn't see replacement straps - the ends were still very old-looking - not the shiny tips usually seen on new ones. Didn't mean for a moment to detract from what was clearly a great job. Just a little surprised that having gone so far - re-stringing, re-pinning, replacing nearly every other felt in the instrument, that he didn't replace the hammers. I'm sure he must've found them in pretty good shape.


I apologise because I misinterpreted what you said. "Replace" means to return something to where it was, whereas if you had said "fit new hammers" and "fit new straps" I would not have made my comment thinking that you had not watched all the videos.

With regards to the hammers I looked again at their condition before he took off the top layer with the inverted Dremel. They did not have deep string grooves. I actually wondered if these Renner Premium Blue hammers were not the original 1901 hammers. If that were the case and he knew this that might be the reason why he thought the bridle straps were still fit for purpose. They are from Renner and not the deteriorating type that were fitted to some Japanese actions.

Just a thought!

ian


Last edited by Beemer; 04/12/16 06:16 PM.

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