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Keyboard Carriage & Walter Transport -- Hauling questions #2523603
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I am having a piano picked up (i.e., Physis Piano V100 -- upright digital) from a New York warehouse which is Viscount North America via either Keyboard Carriage or Walter Transport (whomever gets to it first) and it is shipping 750+ miles and wanted to know:

1) Is there any way to track the whereabouts of the piano?

2) Whom exactly can I contact for shipping info?

I previously had a not so great experience with Keyboard Carriage when they had delivered a Clavinova CLP-990M and it arrived with damages to the pedal box and the cabinet.

I am afraid that Viscount (whom is shipping the Physis Piano V100) is only going to give me the ship out date and an estimated time frame but nothing else.

Here is the piano that is shipping:

http://www.viscountinstruments.us/physis-piano-v100.html

Any info is appreciated.


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I'm not sure what you mean by "who ever gets there first"...

Do you mean you have requested that both companies pick up the piano, and whoever gets there first is the company you choose to do business with? I didn't think that is how long-distance piano moving worked. I thought you had to pay in advance or they don't pick it up at all? Maybe I'm wrong.

Also, I would imagine the only way you can track where the piano is while in route to its final destination, is to call the company on a regular basis and ask them. I doubt they have a tracking system like the USPS or UPS; but I could be wrong there too. smile

Good luck with the move!

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Originally Posted by Rickster
I'm not sure what you mean by "who ever gets there first"...

Do you mean you have requested that both companies pick up the piano, and whoever gets there first is the company you choose to do business with? I didn't think that is how long-distance piano moving worked. I thought you had to pay in advance or they don't pick it up at all? Maybe I'm wrong.

Also, I would imagine the only way you can track where the piano is while in route to its final destination, is to call the company on a regular basis and ask them. I doubt they have a tracking system like the USPS or UPS; but I could be wrong there too. smile

Good luck with the move!

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No, it is Viscount North America (whom I ordered the piano from) that is handling the pickup on their end from New York as they have already been paid in full to do so. Viscount told me that it would be a 50/50 chance of either Keyboard Carriage, or, Walter Transport, picking up the piano, as it is going to go via the company that can get back to Viscount, first.

I figured not many folks here are even familiar with the long distance hauling process.

Will be looking up some info on them, now.


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pv88:

You won't like my story/experience with Keyboard Carriage, but here it is:

I bought my second Estonia from Cunningham Piano in December of 2004, with the understanding that Cunningham would keep the piano for me until I moved from the Philadelphia area in June 2005. At that point Cunningham agreed to make all arrangements for the shipping of the piano to Victoria via Keyboard Carriage. That part of the plan went without a hitch.

In July, 2005, the piano was picked up by Keyboard Carriage. In August, I tried contacting Keyboard Carriage to find out an approximate delivery time for the piano but found out that there was no way of contacting them, or, if memory serves, they simply didn't answer their phone. They had (at the time) no website and no email address.

I contacted Cunningham piano several times between August and December, trying to find the whereabouts of my piano, but Cunningham was equally unsuccessful as I in getting any contact with Keyboard Carriage.

In desperation, Christmas 2005, I contacted Indrek Laul (president of Estonia Piano Company) and within days of doing so I had some information: the piano was in storage in a warehouse in San Diego (or some such southern California city), waiting for a truckload heading north to Canada. Word was that the piano would head northward around the end of January or beginning of February.

I had arranged for the piano to be delivered to a local piano dealer only to find out a couple of days before delivery that KC will not deliver to Victoria (on Vancouver Island). I then arranged for the piano to be delivered to Heritage Pianos, an Estonia dealer in Surrey, BC (thank you Norbert, I'm forever endebted to you for your willingness to accept delivery on my behalf).

A few more heart-stopping complications arose at the moment of delivery but Norbert graciously and efficiently resolved them. Then the piano sat in a Vancouver suburb warehouse for a couple of weeks waiting for delivery to Victoria. I eventually received the piano, in good shape in early February 2006.

Had it not been for the intervention of Dr. Indrek Laul and the help of Norbert Marten, I might still be wondering where Keyboard Carriage has my piano.

For what it may be worth, it cost me approximately $800.00 to have the piano shipped from Philadelphia to Vancouver via San Diego (no charge for six month's storage in California, it seems!!) and $750.00 to ship from Vancouver to Victoria. Go figure!

As they say, YMMV!

Best of luck.

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BruceD,

I am very sorry to hear about your problems with Keyboard Carriage although I am glad to hear the piano arrived in one piece!

Also, I do not have to pay any ADDITIONAL charges to anyone for whatever Keyboard Carriage decides to do since I already paid Viscount in full for both the piano and the shipping, as shipping was included.

I have agreed to to pay $400 on my end when the piano eventually arrives at my local store for delivery.

Question:

Do you have any decent contact info for Keyboard Carriage?

I expect a 6 to 8 week waiting period.

Extra note:

Since I do not know who has picked up the piano as of yet (i.e., could be Walter Transport) then the above question may not be relevant.

Please add any other info here that you might have.


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pv88, I hope you are not a worry-wart like I am; I'd be a nervous wreck if I were you. smile

Here is the contact info I found for Walter Transport

Address: 2135 Industrial Pkwy, Elkhart, IN 46516

Phone:(574) 674-6139

Here is KC:

Phone 270.737.5797

Fax 270.737.6640 | 614.340.7224

rdawson@keyboardcarriage.com

(Source, Google)

I'd call every day or put their number on your speed-dial, until your piano arrived safely. smile

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Rick,

Thanks for the info, although I bet I won't hear a word from anyone until the piano arrives at my local store, as the previous experience with Keyboard Carriage bears this out.


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Originally Posted by pv88
Rick,

Thanks for the info, although I bet I won't hear a word from anyone until the piano arrives at my local store, as the previous experience with Keyboard Carriage bears this out.

Well, I learned a long time ago that you really can't "make" anyone do anything, (except for maybe the Mafia smile ). But if I were you, and I was really concerned about the progress and status of your piano, which is a reasonable expectation, I'd call every day and be nice and ask about the status of your piano.

The worse they can say is they don't know, or stop calling; well, they could say worse, but they probably wouldn't. smile

Good luck, and keep us informed!

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Originally Posted by pv88
Rick,

Thanks for the info, although I bet I won't hear a word from anyone until the piano arrives at my local store, as the previous experience with Keyboard Carriage bears this out.


First: My experience with KC dates from ten and half years ago. Some things may have changed in the interim. They do now have a website (Spartan as it is) with a contact name:

Keyboard Carriage


Second: KC, at the time, had an excellent reputation for the handling of pianos, although they would not deliver to private individuals, but only to dealers. The reason for that, I was told, was that they have only a driver on the delivery truck and that they rely on the staff at the dealer at the point of delivery to unload the piano.

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Originally Posted by BruceD
Second: KC, at the time, had an excellent reputation for the handling of pianos, although they would not deliver to private individuals, but only to dealers. The reason for that, I was told, was that they have only a driver on the delivery truck and that they rely on the staff at the dealer at the point of delivery to unload the piano.

I actually called Keyboard Carriage once and got a quote on a long distance grand piano move. They were very nice and told me pretty much the some thing: they said a dealer/mover needed to break the piano down, load it on the tractor trailer at pick-up. They said at the destination point (had to be a commercial address with a loading dock), they could unload/offload the piano with assistance, and it did not have to be a piano dealer/mover per-se; but it did have to have a commercial loading dock.

It's an economical means of long-distance piano moving if you can coordinate everything on both ends.

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I've not had experience with Keyboard Carriage, but I have had very good experience with the folks at Walter Transport.

They brought my Estonia from up by the Great Lakes down to Florida.
And then later from Florida up to Boston.

Both times they were great to deal with and took really good care of my piano.



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Originally Posted by Piano World
I've not had experience with Keyboard Carriage, but I have had very good experience with the folks at Walter Transport.

They brought my Estonia from up by the Great Lakes down to Florida.
And then later from Florida up to Boston.

Both times they were great to deal with and took really good care of my piano.

Frank, it sounds to me like Keyboard Carriage and Walter Transport would be great prospects for your marketing department to solicit and ask them to buy an ad here on Piano World.

They've already gotten a few freebies. smile

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Will keep everyone updated as to the progress although I still do not know if the piano will be picked up via Keyboard Carriage or Walter Transport as this is now up to Viscount.

I am going to contact them (i.e., Viscount) to see if I have an option between the two shippers as I sure would prefer Walter Transport if it hasn't already been picked up by Keyboard Carriage.

My past experience with Keyboard Carriage has not been a good one, although I am fairly lucky there were only minor damages to the piano, i.e., Clavinova CLP-990M.

From what I hear and see Walter Transport gets better reviews.

Extra note:

Regardless of who ends up picking up the piano I only want to see it arrive "in one piece" as the Physis Piano V100 should be shipping in its own protective box and/or crating so at least it has a better chance of reaching me in good condition as compared with the CLP-990M delivery.


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Originally Posted by BruceD
.... they would not deliver to private individuals, but only to dealers. The reason for that, I was told, was that they have only a driver on the delivery truck and that they rely on the staff at the dealer at the point of delivery to unload the piano.


How strange -- I'd think that they'd have a major liability insurance issue with having non-employees help move heavy objects off their trucks.



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Originally Posted by BruceD
.... they would not deliver to private individuals, but only to dealers. The reason for that, I was told, was that they have only a driver on the delivery truck and that they rely on the staff at the dealer at the point of delivery to unload the piano.


How strange -- I'd think that they'd have a major liability insurance issue with having non-employees help move heavy objects off their trucks.



This is from KC's website "Transport Booking" form:

Please note pick up & delivery locations MUST be full size 18 wheel tractor trailer accessible(75ft)**NOTE** (all trailers are equipped with lift gates). Also MUST be Commercial zoned and someone must be available & able to help assist the driver with lifting/loading and lifting/ unloading your instrument/s . All products must be brought to our trailer for tailgate pick up/delivery. Driver/s can not leave trucks unattended**

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Last we had to do with Keyboard, which was several years ago, we were told that they were specializing in moving Harleys, not so much pianos anymore. While having had good experience with them in the early years,their service later deteriorated to the point where we decided to do no longer business with them.
Not sure if this would merit reconsideration again or any change now.
Such was our experience back then anyways...
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Norbert,

Just did send a request to Viscount for them to consider using Walter Transport instead of Keyboard Carriage as I believe they were going to ship with whoever was able to pick up the piano first. Viscount seems to think that Walter Transport would take longer with the pick up and shipping although even so I would prefer a reputable company handling the piano.

Given a choice (if it hasn't already been picked up by Keyboard Carriage) it will ship via Walter Transport.


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Hi pv88,

In reference to BruceD's story:

Keyboard Carriage has gotten much better in customer service and accessibility. In retrospect, the issue was going into Western Canada with a full truck. They could not afford to make the trip for just a few pianos.

I cannot explain the lack of communication but that was the reason. In the lower 48 you do not have that problem. Where are you located?


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Update:

Will not be using Keyboard Carriage as I am now waiting on a reply from Viscount (North America) and Walter Piano Transport to confirm picking up the Physis Piano V100:

http://www.viscountinstruments.us/physis-piano-v100.html

Viscount should honor my request since the piano (including all shipping charges) have already been paid in full and they only need to confirm setting up pick up with Walter Piano Transport.

Extra note:

Several years ago I had a rare and hard-to-find Clavinova CLP-990M shipped (from a private purchase in New York) via Keyboard Carriage that arrived with a broken pedal box and also some other cosmetic damages including loose veneer on the lower left corner of the keyboard. This is why I will not be using them again.


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I've used Keyboard Carriage on three different moves, all with great success. Each time, was about an 800-mile move from the East Coast to Chicago or vice-versa.

I'll second the comment that they only deliver between warehouses/loading docks. A separate, local company was used at each end for the breakdown and delivery to a warehouse/holding area.

Each time, the piano arrived in pristine condition. If I recall, there was insurance offered on the move, too, which I took for the replacement value of my piano. I wondered how the finger-pointing would go if there were damage, since the piano is actually handled multiple times in a long-distance move.

Given my experience (moves in 2005, 2011 and 2013), I wouldn't hesitate to use them in the future.

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Originally Posted by Norbert
Last we had to do with Keyboard, which was several years ago, we were told that they were specializing in moving Harleys, not so much pianos anymore.


So they'd be perfect for moving this one:

http://pianosxxi.com/piano/custompiano/harley/

;-)



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Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
Keyboard Carriage has gotten much better in customer service and accessibility. In retrospect, the issue was going into Western Canada with a full truck. They could not afford to make the trip for just a few pianos.


They shouldn't have taken the job if they were unable to complete it in a timely manner.

I ordered ceramic floor tiles to be installed in my theatre lobby several years ago. The date the installation was scheduled arrived, I moved all kinds of stuff out of the way the night before, and nobody showed up. I phoned to ask what's going on and was told, "Oh, we haven't ordered the tiles for that job yet."

I've now use a different outfit for tile and carpet, obviously.


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Harley joke:

What's the difference between a Harley Davidson and a vacuum cleaner?

The vacuum cleaner has the dirt bag on the inside.

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Originally Posted by FrankCox
They shouldn't have taken the job if they were unable to complete it in a timely manner.

I ordered ceramic floor tiles to be installed in my theatre lobby several years ago. The date the installation was scheduled arrived, I moved all kinds of stuff out of the way the night before, and nobody showed up. I phoned to ask what's going on and was told, "Oh, we haven't ordered the tiles for that job yet."

I've now use a different outfit for tile and carpet, obviously.

It's bad to say, but I think this is common with a lot of construction contractors. Another common tactic they use is, if they get the job (low bidder, etc...) they will start the job and then not show up for days while working on/finishing another job. That way, it is harder for the customer to fire them and get someone else.

I don't know, maybe that is why I try to do as much as I can around my house myself. Around my house, I'm the plumber, the painter, the appliance repair person, the HVAC guy, the electrician, the roofer, the grounds keeper, the pest control guy, the floor guy, the chief cook and bottle washer and the piano player (although I'm likely better at the former than the latter). smile

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Just found out that the V100 will be shipping via Walter Piano Transport and all should be okay up to my local store.

Big question remains as to how the local guys are going to handle the last 75 feet from the truck to my house as I have requested that they use plywood boards in front of the dolly to make a quick temporary path as they roll the piano and the boards can be picked up and reused over the yard as it moves. Assuming they can do this much (at least) then the piano should arrive in good condition as I just didn't want to see a couple of goofs bodily carrying it as had been done with the Clavinova CLP-585.

Now, the wait begins -- could take 6 weeks to arrive.


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Originally Posted by pv88
Big question remains as to how the local guys are going to handle the last 75 feet from the truck to my house as I have requested that they use plywood boards in front of the dolly to make a quick temporary path as they roll the piano and the boards can be picked up and reused over the yard as it moves. Assuming they can do this much (at least) then the piano should arrive in good condition as I just didn't want to see a couple of goofs bodily carrying it as had been done with the Clavinova CLP-585.

I did this once with a studio upright piano I purchased from a couple selling their million dollar + home in Peachtree City Ga. The piano was in the basement, and they did not want me to drive my pick-up truck and utility trailer on their lawn and damage the sprinkler system.

So, I purchased a couple of sheets of 4'X 8' OSB plywood/particleboard, cut it in half long-ways and my oldest son and I made a walk-way/path with the sections of OSB to roll the piano across the lawn to the drive-way and then on to the utility trailer. We'd lay down the four 2'X 8' sections on the lawn, making a plywood pathway, roll the piano on the plywood to the end of the last piece/section, then move the sheets of OSB from the back to the front. It worked like a charm.

"I love it when a plan comes together" (The A Team) smile

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Originally Posted by Rickster


I'd call every day or put their number on your speed-dial, until your piano arrived safely. smile

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It's scary how much we're alike. Scary.


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Originally Posted by ebonykawai
It's scary how much we're alike. Scary.

I work at a small community technical college (5000 + students). We have a student break-room with vending machines. I got to know the guy who worked for the vending company and we talked whenever he came to service/stock the vending machines. As a side-job, he worked part-time for a jewelry store and sold jewelry while working for the vending company.

I had a nice gold-nugget ring that my wife gave me many years ago. I had lost weight and the ring was too big for my finger. So, I asked the guy about having the ring re-sized to a smaller size. So, he brought a ring-size sampler and we decided on a smaller size. I gave him the gold nugget ring to have re-sized.

Every week when he came to stock the vending machines, I'd ask about the status of my gold nugget ring. I did this for weeks and he kept saying the jeweler hadn't got to it yet. But I kept asking every week.

The guy finally got tired of me asking about my ring and cursed me out. He said I had worried the he** out of him about that ring. The next week he brought me my gold nugget ring, re-sized and all, though he never much spoke to me again.

Just call me Liberace... grin

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Shipping order confirmed:

Have good news in that I just spoke directly with Walter Piano Transport and they have received the order from Viscount and the piano should be shipping out the week of April 3rd. I am really glad I have chosen them as I simply did not have good communication with Keyboard Carriage in retrospect.

It is possible I could have the piano in about 3 weeks or so as compared to 6 weeks with KC and the main point here again is the "communication" between the customer and company. It makes a difference and gives more peace of mind knowing they will be able to answer your questions.

And, to Frank -- thanks for the recommendation!

Extra note:

[Here is the purchase info]

DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID"


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Congratulations, pv88!

$400 is a great shipping price.

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