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CRASH! Went the Grand Piano - Oops
#2514048 02/23/16 11:23 AM
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Thank you to Pieter Verhulst of the Netherlands for these pictures and the story.

It seems a client of Pieter's decided they wanted to move their Rönisch baby grand.
Unfortunately the right front leg was weak, and the piano went crashing over.


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I've often tried to explain to own clients that there is a right and a wrong way to move a piano, particularly grands.

If you are going to move it without a proper grand dolly under it, and/or without breaking it down and setting it on a piano skid, you need to be very careful.
Ideally you should have someone strong by each leg, with everyone taking some of the weight off the leg.

Even without a "weak" leg, grand legs are susceptible to snapping, especially if they snag on a rug or doorstep. And this is all based upon moving the piano a short distance across a room.

If you plan to move it further, and most importantly if you plan to transport it, be sure to hire a qualified mover with experience moving pianos. Ask them for references. You'd be surprised how many movers claim they know how to move "anything", but who don't have a clue how to properly dismantle and reassemble the legs and pedal lyre on a grand.

Luckily for Pieter's customer he and a friend were able to put Humpty together again.

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Ouch!

I take it that the straight side split along the inner rim, and that the plate and soundboard were OK?



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I've never seen a rim split like that.


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That hurts my heart just to look at it. frown

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Look on the bright side. An unintentional but successful lyre tip.

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Poor piano ! frown

Glad they could fix it afterwards. Is it just me or the piano was spray-painted white (looking from under) ?

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The moral of the story is, check the legs first. If they're in sound condition, two people can lift two legs clear of the floor and rotate around the third. That works for short distances within the same room.



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We moved my 40" home this weekend, and the one thing I reiterated to the husband and our friends is, no weight on the legs. They'll torque, catch on something, split, strip the screws, or worse.

And sure enough, as they were moving up the ramp into the trailer, one leg just barely touched the ground, took on some of the weight, and slanted at an angle. Nothing was damaged; I just had to tighten up the screws. But it's just as I've seen in numerous YouTube videos:

Piano legs are for holding up the piano and keeping it stationary. Don't be fooled by those cute little brass wheels. They're not there for joy rides.

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Originally Posted by MooseNotes
...Don't be fooled by those cute little brass wheels. They're not there for joy rides.

Yes, it's almost criminal that the traditional little casters are there. They encourage people to try to roll the piano, when in fact they are little more than decoration!



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I have a so far 100% successful technique for moving grand pianos around a house. I pick up the phone and call the professionals. . . .I figure it's worth the investment!


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