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value of 5 year Kawai GE-1(A,S)? #249259
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We purchased this baby grand for $10,300 5 years ago. We've hardly played it, it's been tuned 3 times,and it's in mint condition. It has the ABS Styran feature and is the 'Special Edition'. The dealer said it sells today for $16,000. Does anyone have any idea what range I could possibly sell it at? It is beautiful and I hate to sell it....but may not have an option.

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$7000-$8000.

The dealer is giving you the sticker price on a new one, which (hopefully)no one pays.

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Nmbr Nine, what is the current value of a 1989 Kawai gE-1 in Maple wood? I wrote a post a few days ago, but couldn't get anyone to respond. Would you be able to help?

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I don't believe the GE-1 is made any more. The current model closest resembling that one is the GE-20, a bit nicer piano. The GM10 is a smaller piano.

Don't know the values of them, but Justplay, much of that value of the GE-1 is dependent on amount of play, climate, and care the piano has had. The wood finishes are more expensive than the polished black.

Having a tech look at the condition would be a wise move.


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Nmbr Nine, what is the current value of a 1989 Kawai gE-1 in Maple wood? I wrote a post a few days ago, but couldn't get anyone to respond. Would you be able to help?
Hi JustPlay:

Sorry...didn't mean to pass myself off as some sort of expert on Kawai! I'm just a shopper who has come across at least three GE-1s in my search...I saw a couple nice Ebony models from the 80s (and I think one from the early nineties) that ranged from 7000-8000.

(Maybe, on reconsideration, the original posters newer piano could fetch a little more, depending on the finish. Also depends where it's being sold, I guess)

There is a small, honest dealer in my area who currently has a white 1987 GE-1 on his floor for $7995. It's been sitting there a while, and I think he has it priced a shade high.

I'd suggest considering how much of a "piano-challenged" market you live in before you decide on a price...we're pretty starved out here in the desert west!

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Nmbr Nine why would a 16 year old piano be worth the same as a 5 year old GE-special edition? You say 7-8k for the 5 year old GE and 7-8 for the 16 year old GE???

If you believe the 5 year old GE special edition is worth 7-8k then wouldn't it make sense the 16 year old GE would be worth 4-5?

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Look in my above post where I reconsidered exactly what you just questioned. A reasonable asking price will also partly depend on the finish (which isn't specified), and again, where it's being sold.

But in my experience, once you get up above a budget of $8000, it's possible to find decent used pianos that are slightly larger than 5'1".

While it sounds like the original poster's piano is in excellent shape...I wouldn't assume that all newer used pianos are necessarily worth more than older ones.

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Um, okay..

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What's with the sarcasm?

A question was asked, and I answered it based on the prices I've seen for similar pianos.

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By the way, Justplay, here's a recent thread about what was paid for a similar GE-1.

http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/10558.html#000000

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Ok, why I'm still paying attention to your plight is beyond me. But I went and found your original query.

Your offer of 4000 would seem a little low to me. The 15-25 year old pianos I saw, priced between 7 and 8000 (at a dealer, mind you), seemed a little high to me.

Is it a private party? You might have a better chance if it's not a dealer. But why not throw 4000 at them? Afterall, a piano is only worth what someone will pay for it. You may have better luck if you offer 5000. Regardless of price, you should really get it checked out by a tech.

If you only have 4000 to spend, you might consider a quality upright.

If you're set on buying a baby grand, you might consider a bigger budget.

If you're just going to come here and throw sarcasm at people who are genuinely trying to help you, you might consider taking your questions somewhere else.

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Nmbrnine, don't be so sensitive!. I don't understand your rationale and thought I would just agree. $6500.00 for a 6year old GE S/E is a good price... then... wouldn't 4k for a 16 year old sound about right???

I appreciate your trying to help. Don't take it personal it's just you really don't have any idea.

I just wanted to know if this was a good deal for my niece to get started.

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No Justplay, this is why pianos are not exactly like cars. You can't go into this process (and believe me, it can become a process!) with the idea that an older piano is necessarily worth less.

I think most people here would pay more for a gently used, well-maintained one-owner 16-year-old piano than, say, a 6-year old (or newer) piano that's spent a few semesters being hammered in a music school...or one that's bounced around the country, or one that has an unclear past.

And I do, in fact, have a pretty good idea what these pianos are worth, in ballpark terms, by virtue of the fact that I've been piano shopping for nearly a year now. My estimate of the original poster's piano is based on the description.

No, I don't have specific knowledge of the piano that's become of interest to you. But it doesn't sound as if you know a lot about it either. All I know is that it's 16 years old, with a maple cabinet, whic might make it a little more valuable, at least in the eyes of the seller. Is it gray market? What does a technician say about it?


I also forgot to mention that of the two seemingly identical used Ebony GE-1s at my local dealer, the prices he was asking were within a few hundred dollars, despite one being 13 years older than the other. I'm not sure why. But he did manage to sell both, while, the white one sits.

If you spend a while shopping, you'll realize age doesn't, in many cases, determine value, and you're not doing enough homework if that's the primary measuring stick you use in your piano search.

Good luck.

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#9, I think your quote, "value doesn't mean age" I appreciate your advice and I think I was looking at this as if were a car. I might go look at this piano. I know he'll take 5k for it, I just didn't want to get taken advantage of. It is one owner purchased new from a dealer and used lightly. I think it's worth it to take a look. I'll broaden my measurement tools and look a little more objectively. If it sings to me, then it'll be worth it.

Thanks again

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I think it sounds like it will be well worth your while to take a look... and you're wise to be careful not to be taken advantage of.
Piano shopping certainly is scary...much more difficult than buying a car I think!

I think if it does check out quality-wise, and you can get it for 5000 (Or less!??!) you should feel good about it.

Again, good luck, and let us know how it works out!

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We purchased this baby grand for $10,300 5 years ago. We've hardly played it, it's been tuned 3 times,and it's in mint condition. It has the ABS Styran feature and is the 'Special Edition'. The dealer said it sells today for $16,000. Does anyone have any idea what range I could possibly sell it at? It is beautiful and I hate to sell it....but may not have an option.

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Thanks to all of you for responding to my inquiry! Your comments helped tremendously. I will continue to ask around locally before setting a price. Thanks again!


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