 |
Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments. Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers
(it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!
|
|
39 members (Boboulus, Anglagard44, beeboss, Bluthendorfer, aphexdisklavier, 1957, Beowulf, barbaram, 10 invisible),
572
guests, and
537
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
 Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 28,927
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
|
OP
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 28,927 |
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 9,328
9000 Post Club Member
|
9000 Post Club Member
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 9,328 |
This just sounds silly and pretentious.
Regards,
Polyphonist
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,169
4000 Post Club Member
|
4000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,169 |
It's *probably* silly and pretentious, but maybe not. The idea of the piano slowly rotating, and completing one rotation over the course of the whole piece, sounds promising. I like how a listener can chart his progress through the work by observing the angle of the piano. I also like how if you start with a really good view of the pianist, he'll be the most hidden from you right at variation 15, which sounds right for variation 15.
I have no general faith in this kind of thing though. And the first 30 minutes sounds silly.
-J
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 342
Full Member
|
Full Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 342 |
His new recording of the Goldbergs (which also includes Beethoven's Diabelli and Rzewski's "The People United Will Never be Defeated", a 3-CD set) is anything but "silly and pretentious."
Yama B3
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,169
4000 Post Club Member
|
4000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,169 |
His new recording of the Goldbergs (which also includes Beethoven's Diabelli and Rzewski's "The People United Will Never be Defeated", a 3-CD set) is anything but "silly and pretentious." Of course not, but the performance described in the article, with its visual theatrics, may be.
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 97
Full Member
|
Full Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 97 |
Oh wow. I'm glad I read the article. If I hadn't, I doubt I would have heard that Rzewski played People United in a Pittsburgh fish market not that long ago. That is awesome. It is a dream of mine to one day see People United performed live by just about anybody, let alone Rzewski himself!
As for Levit, I really want to hear his CD. The Goldbergs performance sounds intriguing, and I'd probably go out of curiosity. It would certainly be a different sort of concert experience.
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 9,392
9000 Post Club Member
|
9000 Post Club Member
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 9,392 |
His new recording of the Goldbergs (which also includes Beethoven's Diabelli and Rzewski's "The People United Will Never be Defeated", a 3-CD set) is anything but "silly and pretentious." 'Anything but' indeed. The CD set was the Recording of the Month in the latest issue of Gramophone.
Jason
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 139
Full Member
|
Full Member
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 139 |
This just sounds silly and pretentious. I have to agree, at least about the silent 30 minutes. At a regular piano recital, if the pianist spends more than 30 seconds preparing to play, I get anxious. Extend this to 30 minutes, and I'd be jumping out of my skin.
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,102
9000 Post Club Member
|
9000 Post Club Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,102 |
The audience for this sort of thing should self-select fairly easily, culling out those who don't want this sort of experience.
I was reminded of some of Busoni's thoughts about classical music performance - if alive, he probably would rejoice that such a thing took place, even if some of the specifics might not be to his taste.
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 28,927
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
|
OP
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 28,927 |
Another earlier article about this project which spells out some more details about the performance. The audience must surrender the cell phones etc. before the concert and then sit in silence for 30 minutes while wearing noise cancelling earphones! http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/06/a...nd-igor-levit-variation-on-goldberg.html
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 9,328
9000 Post Club Member
|
9000 Post Club Member
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 9,328 |
Another earlier article about this project which spells out some more details about the performance. The audience must surrender the cell phones etc. before the concert and then sit in silence for 30 minutes while wearing noise cancelling earphones! What nonsense.
Regards,
Polyphonist
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,119
1000 Post Club Member
|
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,119 |
Who would have guessed there's a way to present the Goldbergs and there's a way not present them? http://www.theguardian.com/artandde...ovic-igor-levit-bach-goldberg-variationsI mean, if you go by the simple story which may not be a true story the GBV's are for a two-manual harpsichord AND they're intended as a cure for insomnia.
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 137
Full Member
|
Full Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 137 |
This sounds great! I love the cell-phone ban. I think removing outside distractions and having a purely art-based experience would be interesting. Also, the frame of 30 mins of silence would, I think, help the music acquire a more mysterious allure.
It's disappointing to see that anything that is different from the status quo of Classical Music Concert gets shot down and made fun of here.
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,906
1000 Post Club Member
|
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,906 |
It is deeply saddening when people feel the need to add very cheap gimmicks to a great work of art that will only demean it. That includes the political spew the pianist seems to feel is essential to his "work".
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,916
2000 Post Club Member
|
2000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,916 |
This just sounds silly and pretentious. Well, it is by a "performance artist."
Gary
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 9,328
9000 Post Club Member
|
9000 Post Club Member
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 9,328 |
It is deeply saddening when people feel the need to add very cheap gimmicks to a great work of art that will only demean it. That includes the political spew the pianist seems to feel is essential to his "work". +1
Regards,
Polyphonist
|
|
|
 Re: Unusual performance of the Goldberg Variations
|
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,283
1000 Post Club Member
|
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,283 |
I cringe when reading "Bach" and "Marina Abramovic" in the same sentence.
I'll see myself out now.
|
|
|
Forums42
Topics204,533
Posts3,051,124
Members100,199
|
Most Online15,252 Mar 21st, 2010
|
|
|
|
|
|