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As a kid, I wanted to play only the first sonata movements
#2489277 12/09/15 11:54 PM
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I played a few sonatas by Beethoven and Mozart, and at the time I believed that a sonata was not one singular piece, but that it consisted of a main movement (the first movement) and a few more unimportant pieces attached to it that weren't worth playing. At first, my teacher tried to make me learn the whole sonatas, but I was too strong willed and she, for the most part, gave in. I just did not want to practice the other movements. Slow movements were especially problematic, since I would get bored trying to practice them and give up after a few minutes.

Today, I decided to read through two sonatas that I "played" years ago, Beethoven's op 2-1 and op 79. I realized that I was having an easier time sight reading them now, for the first time in years, then I did when I had actually tried to learn them! In order words, my teacher was letting me study pieces that I was far from technically equipped to handle, but that's a story for another day. But what really struck me was how much I enjoyed playing through the movements that I had previously neglected and thought were insignificant. I was especially amazed at how gorgeous the slow movement of op. 2-1 is. I can't imagine why I had been so dumb and stubborn all those years ago.

Did anyone else have an experience like mine, or any sort of immature, stubborn beliefs or habits about the piano that they later realized were wrong?


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I don't think it's a case of "stubborn beliefs" but rather one of musical growth that enables you, now, to appreciate what you had dismissed earlier.

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One of my previous teachers often taught Beethoven's Op. 31 no. 2, but only rarely assigned the second movement to her students still in high school because they just couldn't get it.


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Originally Posted by Arghhh
One of my previous teachers often taught Beethoven's Op. 31 no. 2, but only rarely assigned the second movement to her students still in high school because they just couldn't get it.


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As a kid, I thought that the "Moonlight Sonata" was just the first movement...that's what's it the books and often single piece sheet music. In later life I stumbled across a recording of the third movement. My jaw dropped, and I vowed to learn it then and there! Subsequently I have always studied all the movements in the dozen or so sonatas I've attempted.

However, I'm now just focusing on favorite movements. I'm not a performer, just an older guy who enjoys playing.


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Hi, preludetr! My own experience is somewhat the opposite of yours -- I always found the 1st movement to be the most "boring" of the (usually) four movements, and I took greater delight in the Scherzo or Rondo movements, or liked the slow movement independent of the rest of the Sonata. I would have to say that's still the case today.

With particular regard to Beethoven's 31 - 2: I would agree that the extended slow movement is IMO one of his finest efforts from his earlier period. But, I also agree that it's probably above the perspective of the typical high-schooler, even a musically gifted one. Depends upon the student, of course, but I can understand the prudence in not assigning it; I would pick some other Beethoven Piano Sonatas first.

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And then there are those of us who played only slow movements because the fast ones were scary. smile


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I WANTED to play all the movements and felt really incomplete if I could only technically handle one movement-- I remember 'testing' the waters on my own, and gazing longingly at what I could not master.

My 'wish list' was (and still is) bigger than my current level.


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And speaking of habits, I one habit which I still have is the tendency to bite off more than I can chew when selecting pieces. I'm considering re-learning and polishing those sonatas, and putting the Waldstein on hold for a while. It's been the bane of my existence for an embarrassingly long time...

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I normally made up my own Sonatas with a favorite movement each from three or four different sonatas, following Mahler's system of progressive tonality wink .


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Originally Posted by bennevis
I normally made up my own Sonatas with a favorite movement each from three or four different sonatas, following Mahler's system of progressive tonality wink .


I still do that with Bach's flute sonatas--can't claim to have a system, though.


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And then there are those of us who played only slow movements because the fast ones were scary. smile


As a kid I didn't find fast movements scary. That changed when I grew up and realized how badly I was butchering fast movements.


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