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RPT tools update #2489005
12/09/15 05:29 AM
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Greetings,
I want to know if any member of this forum is aware of any improvement made so far on the tools being given out by RPT and ASPT recently.I have seen comments and the one made by RPT and ASPT stating the tools have been improved upon. I need a confirmation from any member who may have an any idea.

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Re: RPT tools update [Re: Israel Bright] #2489145
12/09/15 03:26 PM
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Iv never given out any tools nor have any been given to me except to and from friends,
Nothing to do with RPT


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Re: RPT tools update [Re: Israel Bright] #2489336
12/10/15 07:10 AM
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Gene,

The OP is referring to Randy Potter School of Piano Technology ("RPT" in his rather unfortunate choice of acronym) and American School of Piano Tuning ("ASPT"). See also:

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Re: RPT tools update [Re: Israel Bright] #2489403
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Thank you Mark.


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Re: RPT tools update [Re: Israel Bright] #2497146
01/04/16 08:51 PM
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I know that the tuning hammer has been upgraded for the American School of Piano Tuning (I'm currently enrolled; enrolled late last year), but I'm not sure of what quality the original tuning hammer was in order to compare them properly.


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Re: RPT tools update [Re: Israel Bright] #2497170
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I wouldn't worry about it. What was used in the past will be immaterial to your current study.

Good luck. Study hard.


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Re: RPT tools update [Re: Israel Bright] #2497503
01/05/16 10:02 PM
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I will say this: My first course was with American School of Piano Tuning when I was a 17 year old teenager. What was taught were the very basics. The tools were adequate for that but the tuning hammer (at the time) could have been better. That was 1969. A new student does not need to have a very expensive tuning hammer. There are choices which can be made for a perfectly adequate one that does not cost greatly.

What I have the most to criticize are the tuning instructions. Those could be improved. I struggled greatly to rise above what I was initially taught to rise to the level of RPT. It took attending the first PTG convention that I attended in 1979 to have my eyes and ears opened.

After a few years of hard practice, totally disregarding what I had learned from the American school, I was able to qualify at a superior level as an RPT. The American school is chosen by many. I understand that but it should be considered to be only as an introduction to piano technology, not as everything a technician needs to know.

In summation, the American School has helped countless people to have an introduction to Piano Technology. For some, who were merely curious or only wanted to experiment with piano tuning and repairs as a hobby, it has been useful and adequate. For others who genuinely sought a career as a piano technician, it was readily understood that there was far more to the profession than what is taught in that course.

In that respect, it is useful. One may determine from the material and tools whether one may want to go further. I can actually say that I am glad to have found the American School when I did. It lead to my career as a Piano Technician.


Bill Bremmer RPT
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Re: RPT tools update [Re: Israel Bright] #2497774
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Just pulled out my ASPT lessons - from 1983 - the balance due for lessons 2 though 10 was $310.00 About 1 months rent in those days! I don't know how much the first lesson with tools was. After lots of practice and picking brains of fellow tuners, I earned my RPT in 1985. The tuning hammer was a student model - it eventually broke on a tight tuning pin.

I would recommend that a serious beginner invest in a professional tuning hammer - It makes learning so much easier. A student hammer is really for touch up, only.





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