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Need help understanding my CFX-228 Pianodisc player #2488472
12/07/15 12:43 PM
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First thanks in advanced for any help you can give me! It's really appreciated as I feel like I'm not usually pretty good at figuring things out but wouldn't say I'm techy or really understand what I'm doing here in tech terms. I recently purchased a used Weber baby grand with a CFX-228 piano player in it. I've been reading the posts on here about the system and have contacted Pianodisc, who just told me I should upgrade my system. this may be in the cards at some point but since I just spent a considerable amount of money on a piano with need to wait a bit. Here are my issues/questions:

1. I'd like to get more music for my player. Can I buy music from Pianodisc's website and convert it into a usable type file for my player. I have a 2012 I-Mac. What do I need to do?

2. Is there a way to take piano MP-3s and convert them into the type of Wav file that will play on my player. What program would I need?

3. My Mac isn't wanting to burn my CD's imported from Musiconnect into iTunes. Do I need to do something special? It just keeps saying to insert a blank cd. I've tried burning to CD-R disk's. Do I need another type. Also I was burning as a data file because I read online this is what I should do.

4. The Pianodisc player works great with CD's I've purchased and discs but the screen doesn't light up anymore. I can use the remote it came with and make all the functions work. Can I set up the cd jack with an airport express or blue tooth player without this screen lighting up? Which is the better option blue-tooth or airport express?

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Re: Need help understanding my CFX-228 Pianodisc player [Re: michelleanderson] #2488770
12/08/15 10:36 AM
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Update:

I've downloaded the Mid2pianocd it works great. I just save the files from Mid2pianocd to my desktop on my Mac and then drag the files into iTunes. I've only burnt the discs using an external superdrive from Apple.

A great place great Christmas Midi file music is http://www.kuhmann.com/Yamaha.htm (I only downloaded the Midi Files Format and converted them to the correct format for my Pianodisc player.)

Also, I found if I used my flashlight on my phone and shined it on the display that I could read it. It wasn't broken after all. I'm a little nervous about setting up my airport. I'll update this experience once I've done it.




Re: Need help understanding my CFX-228 Pianodisc player [Re: michelleanderson] #2538935
05/11/16 11:28 PM
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Michelle(?), I have just discovered this forum.

You will get much more quality reproduction from your piano using only raw midi.

I play raw midi directly from my computer into my piano via USB thru a cheap cable which has 2 midi plugs (in & out) running from a USB plug.

To use a raw midi you will need to open it using a free shareware midi editor such as MidiSwing or Aria Maestosa, covert it to Type 0 then adjust the note velocities down to suit your piano (so the hammers in your piano do not pound the strings too hard). Thereafter, any and every nuance of playback can be adjusted on screen in real time as you play back directly on the piano through the editor.

Here are the facts about .wav and other audio files used to play Yamaha Disklavier or Pianodisc:

Playback thru thru these pianos direct from raw midis is far superior to putting audio files thru the CD input which uses converted midis playing like a fax tone from much larger audio tracks. E.g. BACH Chaconne in the Busoni piano transcription occupies 70KB on midi but takes 32.2MB converted to an audio file. I understand that the audio protocol still used to make the CD signal goes back to the 70s when slow moving cassettes drove solenoid pianos and that the conversion process actually makes use of only 1/17th of the available data in the midi file! To play from raw midi is to play your piano digitally direct and extremely efficiently. To play from the CD or CD input by converting the midi to an audio signal is highly inefficient and vastly inferior in quality of output.

Ironic and surprising as it sounds, the old floppy discs are far superior in their quality of output compared to the CDs which replaced them, but I guess that Pianodisc & Disklavier still persist with CD as they can put real instrument accompaniments and voice on them. Raw midi can be also extracted from floppies.

Very few owners of Pianodisc or Disklavier realise the full potential of these remarkable instruments as they do not understand the technology which drives them.


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