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Re: How much to crane up 12 stories or up the stairs?
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Originally Posted by Rank Piano Amateur
My advice, based on experience of moving pianos in and out of apartments, would be to have the piano mover (pick the best) come and look at the elevator. Measuring tapes will not tell you whether the piano will fit or not.


Would be wise to check on the maximum loading of the elevator first. It may be impossible anyway just due to the weight. Apartment elevators are often pretty lightweight.

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I believe I would have researched this before I bought the piano. smile

Nonetheless, it should be doable at a price (which remains a mystery).

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Originally Posted by Rank Piano Amateur

I agree with the earlier post that says that no piano mover will take a piano up twelve flights of stairs. If they did, it would take several days and cost more than the piano.


Although as a stunt in 1979, a couple of men did carry a 440 lb piano up the 1760 steps of the CN Tower stairs, and did it in 7.5 hours. wink


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Re: How much to crane up 12 stories or up the stairs?
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I would think that the height would not make much of a difference in the price, provided the crane can reach the 12th floor.


My building doesn't have a freight elevator. The elevator has 7'3" ceiling but the entry is short and the interior space is small. U can barely get a piano under 6' in there!


There's the rub. To reach 120 feet, you're talking a much bigger and more expensive crane. The move could cost more than the piano.

The best solution may be for the O.P. to move to a more accessible building.



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Re: How much to crane up 12 stories or up the stairs?
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Originally Posted by sam abdel
How much would it cost to get a 7' piano (sf10 Baldwin) to my apt. if it doesn't fit in the elevator? I live 12 stories up.

Crane vs stairs?

Thanks for ur input!


Have you already purchased the piano and/or already rented/bought the apartment?

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I've been told of a high-rise delivery where the piano didn't fit inside the elevator cab, so the movers rode it up on top of the cab. You'll have to call around to find out what all your possibilities are.

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I will admit I love to look at houses and imagine what my next move would be. But there's plenty of beautiful properties here where I take one look at the winding, rickety concrete steps that lead from the garage to the front door and think:



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Re: How much to crane up 12 stories or up the stairs?
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Hi Sam,

I am in the process of purchasing an apartment in NYC located on the 12th floor (yeah, spooky coincidence). Last time I went to do some measurements I had some second thoughts on whether my piano (six foot grand) would fit in the elevator. Height is ok but keyboard is wider than either length or width of the elevator. The piano may fit on its keyboard corner to corner or slightly angled, but this is for a specialist to judge therefore I am sending a mover to measure and find out.

I trust the moving company I am working with as they have done an incredible job moving my piano safely twice already. Elevator is yet to be checked, but from the first feedback I had it turns out that:
- crane is not favored as it requires a permit to block street and sidewalk, which may takes time to obtain as police needs to get involved and send appropriate personal.
- crane is the most expensive option and would cost "at least" $3k, which probably add up to the standard ground delivery (around $500 for the two times I did it). I tried to get a guesstimate for the stairs but the mover said he'd rather check the elevator first before discussing further. Fair enough.

I'll post more info when/if I have additional information. Frankly I would prefer the piano to fit in the elevator and have nothing more to report here smile

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
C


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Well, if you do get a crane, be sure to post a video of it being hoisted up! Those are always fun to watch.


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Re: How much to crane up 12 stories or up the stairs?
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How much would it cost to get a 7' piano (sf10 Baldwin) to my apt. if it doesn't fit in the elevator? I live 12 stories up.

Crane vs stairs?

Thanks for ur input!


Have you already purchased the piano and/or already rented/bought the apartment?

Regards,


didn't buy it yet, but seriously considering a 7' if i can get it in my atp/condo.

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Originally Posted by sam abdel
didn't buy it yet, but seriously considering a 7' if i can get it in my atp/condo.

Sounds like a wise move.

If the cost of having the piano moved is deemed too high, then you might look for another piano or another apartment/condo. smile

Good luck!

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Smartest thing I ever did was buy a ground floor condo. Piano moves are easy, and no noise complaints from downstairs neighbors, or any neighbors for that matter.

Good luck with your move.


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Doesn't help you in LA, but I always got a chuckle from the name of this Boston firm, which I've been told has been involved in some crane moves:

http://www.deathwishpiano.com/



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Originally Posted by Chewbacca
Hi Sam,

I am in the process of purchasing an apartment in NYC located on the 12th floor (yeah, spooky coincidence). Last time I went to do some measurements I had some second thoughts on whether my piano (six foot grand) would fit in the elevator. Height is ok but keyboard is wider than either length or width of the elevator. The piano may fit on its keyboard corner to corner or slightly angled, but this is for a specialist to judge therefore I am sending a mover to measure and find out.

I trust the moving company I am working with as they have done an incredible job moving my piano safely twice already. Elevator is yet to be checked, but from the first feedback I had it turns out that:
- crane is not favored as it requires a permit to block street and sidewalk, which may takes time to obtain as police needs to get involved and send appropriate personal.
- crane is the most expensive option and would cost "at least" $3k, which probably add up to the standard ground delivery (around $500 for the two times I did it). I tried to get a guesstimate for the stairs but the mover said he'd rather check the elevator first before discussing further. Fair enough.

I'll post more info when/if I have additional information. Frankly I would prefer the piano to fit in the elevator and have nothing more to report here smile

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
C



how funny you're on the twelfth floor in nyc and i'm on the 12th floor in w.hollywood (both ends of the country). my last grand had to be angled from corner to corner since the elevator is not very wide. i'm setting something up with the piano movers to come over and do a "look and see" for $50.00 to determine how large of a piano will fit in the elevator. also, if a 7' doesn't fit (that's what i prefer to purchase) then they'll let me know how much it will be for craning or going up the stairs!

i'll keep you guys informed of the outcome.

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It will be interesting to see how much you are quoted.

Contrast that with when I have my Bluthner model 1 delivered next year. It will be in a flight case which has fork lift blocks underneath. My neighbour has a fork lift! Electric tail gate on the truck, down to ground level and then forked straight through the door into my ground floor ballroom. The ballroom has oak beams and I have a chain hoist so actually one small woman could get the 9' piano on its legs if necessary!


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Originally Posted by PhilipInChina
It will be interesting to see how much you are quoted.

Contrast that with when I have my Bluthner model 1 delivered next year. It will be in a flight case which has fork lift blocks underneath. My neighbour has a fork lift! Electric tail gate on the truck, down to ground level and then forked straight through the door into my ground floor ballroom. The ballroom has oak beams and I have a chain hoist so actually one small woman could get the 9' piano on its legs if necessary!


Phillip can you PLEASE post pics of this Ballroom? I've been dying to see it when you talked about it a few months back.


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Would be wise to check on the maximum loading of the elevator first. It may be impossible anyway just due to the weight. Apartment elevators are often pretty lightweight.


This is an important point! I have a friend who had a grand piano moved into her third floor flat. She specifically told the movers not to use the elevator, because the maximum load was less than the weight of the piano. They put the piano in the elevator anyway - and damaged the elevator in the process.

I used to work for an elevator repair firm - I promise you that if any damage is done to an elevator which you end up having to pay for, this could potentially cost a lot more than the moving costs!

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Originally Posted by PhilipInChina
It will be interesting to see how much you are quoted.

Contrast that with when I have my Bluthner model 1 delivered next year. It will be in a flight case which has fork lift blocks underneath. My neighbour has a fork lift! Electric tail gate on the truck, down to ground level and then forked straight through the door into my ground floor ballroom. The ballroom has oak beams and I have a chain hoist so actually one small woman could get the 9' piano on its legs if necessary!


Phillip can you PLEASE post pics of this Ballroom? I've been dying to see it when you talked about it a few months back.


Once it is complete.


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Silly question: what are the dimensions of the elevator and what weight will it lift?


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Silly question: what are the dimensions of the elevator and what weight will it lift?

It's 7'3" tall. The keyboard will have to go in the diagonal. The entry door is less than 7'.
The elevator can handle about 1,800 pounds.

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