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Are the Bach Inventions a logical next goal when you did 4 (114, 115, 116 ,122 ahn) Anna Magdalena Notebook pieces? If yes, wich inventions should I try next. if no, what Bach pieces comes between these works? I really liked and enjoyed working on Bach.

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The 1st Invention is the one you should try, that's the first that my teacher made me learn, it is the easiest one (not really that easy). If you're ready or not... I can't tell you; before that one I only learned a part of a sonatina and some exercises.


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Some of the little preludes fit in between the notebook and the 2-part inventions in difficulty. What does your teacher say? I'm curious

http://imslp.org/wiki/42_Little_Keyboard_Preludes_%28Bach,_Johann_Sebastian%29


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The first Bach Invention is RCM 8. Try the Little Prelude in C at 0:53 - 1:44 (RCM 5) here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CsTj2tX1r4M#t=53

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Originally Posted by ajames
Some of the little preludes fit in between the notebook and the 2-part inventions in difficulty. What does your teacher say? I'm curious

http://imslp.org/wiki/42_Little_Keyboard_Preludes_%28Bach,_Johann_Sebastian%29


I agree. After AMB notebook pieces, move onto some of the little preludes. They're very tricky, but a good intermediate step before inventions. I teach the F major invention first when I get to inventions, by the way. But either one is good to start with when you're ready.


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I agree with 8 Octaves. The inventions are not that easy, even the 1st one in C major. That one and #4 in D minor were the first that I learned. The little preludes range from grade 5 through 9. Several of them are three voiced like a Sinfonia. They can also be challenging. That's Bach for you!

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So all these little preludes are covered in ajames' link? Or that's not all?

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That looks like a good link. Here is a source to check the grade level of a piece:

http://www.pianosyllabus.com/default.php


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Bach Invention No 1 is easy peezy, only took me eight months to learn laugh but then again I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I would not have been ready for the Inventions if I had not developed a better technique than I had after Anna Magdalena Notebook pieces. I learned two of the Little Preludes, BWV 927 being a great technical piece, but I think learning Clementi Sonatina No 2 helped equally as a technique builder.


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No. 8 and No. 4 came a little easier for me than No. 1, which was my first one, but in truth none of them have been easy for me. They look simple, but they are a challenge for late starters like me.


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Do an invention, put them aside, come back in a year or two and do another, another couple of years and by that time you might be ready wink

Doing my third right now and they do get easier. I'm learning the F Major which is one of my favorite of them.


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I love No 4, I think it will be my next one because it looks so easy ha


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The Bach preludes you are talking about here.
Are that the preludes from "Das wohltemperierte Klavier" 1 & 2

or maybe this is the better book?

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I'm sorry about my stupidity and ignorance. My teacher also said they're difficult. I started with the first one on my third lesson and seeing the kids on Youtube playing them made me think the Inventions are quite easy. I really should not worry and be more confident about myself like he said (basically in each lesson).

The first time I saw the n.8 I thought "This looks quite easy"... Turns out I find it more challenging than n.1. It's fun, though.


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I think I learned at least 10 short pieces by Bach before attempting an invention. I only learned 1 little prelude, BWV 939, which I think is the easiest. And I actually started learning the first few measures of invention no. 1 way too soon, and then returned to it later to finish the work, at which point it "only" took me 3 months. I'm not sure number 1 is the easiest to be honest, with the trills and all. Number 8 is a canon with lots of imitation, so maybe it's a tad easier. But it's so subjective.

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Originally Posted by johan d
The Bach preludes you are talking about here.
Are that the preludes from "Das wohltemperierte Klavier" 1 & 2

or maybe this is the better book?


No, it's not the WTC! The little preludes are supposedly easier. The book you mention is the right one, but you can also find the little preludes on IMSLP.


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