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Re: Recital 40 --- Call For Submissions
piano_primo #2480285 11/13/15 05:29 PM
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I just re-submitted my piece, as well. (First time I've done that.) I thought that I had it ready two weeks ago, but I think that I've been able to add some musicality to it during the past two weeks (At least I hope so!).

Happy with my playing, but not 100% happy with the quality of the recording. I use Audacity to convert a wav to mp3. I didn't apply any tools such as Noise Removal or Normalize - Should I have? If so, what settings work well - because when I tried these tools, the file first got pretty low-volume (Noise Removal), then too loud and harsh (Normalize).


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Total non-sequitur here...

For those keeping track, Chopin is doing well with 6 submissions to date, a nice overview of his output: largo, prelude, nocturne, waltz, mazurka, and andante spianato.

I'm looking forward to listening to everyone's pieces. Maybe we need an anniversary song this time around?

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Made it!

I was supposed to record yesterday, yet even when I sat down to play, I completely forgot about the recital.

This morning I couldn't find the gadget that lets me feed sound into my computer (don't ask...) so I had to pull out the old laptop, which wasn't charged, had to find the cables to plug it in... then I couldn't plug in the piano for Silent mode AND have the computer plugged in, so I had to find an extension cord. argh. I was stressed before I started.

Nonetheless, I played as well (or better) than I would in front of a live audience: not a perfect performance, but I have great fun playing these pieces and hope they will entertain.


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Change of plans it seems for me...need to go to plan B because time ran out frown

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Just added my first recording. GULP.


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I resubmitted, so everyone move up one. I am much happier with this recording, and I made it under the wire!

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Originally Posted by newbert
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not 100% happy with the quality of the recording. I use Audacity to convert a wav to mp3. I didn't apply any tools such as Noise Removal or Normalize - Should I have? If so, what settings work well - because when I tried these tools, the file first got pretty low-volume (Noise Removal), then too loud and harsh (Normalize).

Certainly no expert here, but like anything we improve with it over time. This is how I am now using audacity. I have never figured out how to create an MP3 from Audacity. Instead I export it as wav file and convert the wav to MP3 with an external converter (easy and also free)

Normalize - no, I don't. Not sure what this does, but not quite the same as amplify and it adds a dimension to the sound I don't care for. Noise Removal - no, for this one I think you need to isolate the sound you want to remove first. I could never get it to work. Actually I find, the cleaner the sound the better. That is, the less you do with it in Audacity the better. Panning - I typically PAN the left channel right by about 20%, and the right channel left about 20%. Then raise the volume on the individual channels so they end reasonably even. Lastly amplify as needed to be just below clipping anything. I don't like to be right up against the clip line, but not too far away either. That's all.

With all of the above I still end up with humming. A better pre-amp has improved it, but I still have more learning to do too.

Oh, one more thing. This feature I do use ... Equalization: Flat.

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Originally Posted by Greener
I have never figured out how to create an MP3 from Audacity. Instead I export it as wav file and convert the wav to MP3 with an external converter (easy and also free)


If you are on windows you need to install the lame library ( free also ), then you will find the extra option for mp3 export directly from audacity.

I use this link.

http://downloads.tomsguide.com/Lame,0301-153.html

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My Haydn I've been working on for nine months just isn't happening. My Scriabin that I've been working on for two weeks - first take. Sigh, I've had many discussions about the Haydn with my teacher, just for some reason it doesn't "click". Maybe in February!!


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Aren't 16 and 43 both entries by Khopin? I think he didn't understand there's only one entry per person -


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Originally Posted by Greener
I have never figured out how to create an MP3 from Audacity. Instead I export it as wav file and convert the wav to MP3 with an external converter (easy and also free)


If you are on windows you need to install the lame library ( free also ), then you will find the extra option for mp3 export directly from audacity.

I use this link.

http://downloads.tomsguide.com/Lame,0301-153.html


If you have a H2/4nZoom type recorder, there is a feature that allows you to encode a WAV file to mp3.



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not 100% happy with the quality of the recording. I use Audacity to convert a wav to mp3. I didn't apply any tools such as Noise Removal or Normalize - Should I have? If so, what settings work well - because when I tried these tools, the file first got pretty low-volume (Noise Removal), then too loud and harsh (Normalize).

Certainly no expert here, but like anything we improve with it over time. This is how I am now using audacity. I have never figured out how to create an MP3 from Audacity. Instead I export it as wav file and convert the wav to MP3 with an external converter (easy and also free)

Normalize - no, I don't. Not sure what this does, but not quite the same as amplify and it adds a dimension to the sound I don't care for. Noise Removal - no, for this one I think you need to isolate the sound you want to remove first. I could never get it to work. Actually I find, the cleaner the sound the better. That is, the less you do with it in Audacity the better. Panning - I typically PAN the left channel right by about 20%, and the right channel left about 20%. Then raise the volume on the individual channels so they end reasonably even. Lastly amplify as needed to be just below clipping anything. I don't like to be right up against the clip line, but not too far away either. That's all.

With all of the above I still end up with humming. A better pre-amp has improved it, but I still have more learning to do too.

Oh, one more thing. This feature I do use ... Equalization: Flat.


Thanks for explaining how you record in Audacity. I'll try "equalize" the next time. (I may have gotten that mixed up with "normalize".)

The file I re-submitted for this recital was just straight wav to mp3 conversion - no tools applied. Although the file on my PC sounds OK, the file that's on the recital's server didn't sound nearly as good when I played it back when re-submitting. Perhaps it's due to compression or just an anomaly?


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Originally Posted by Greener
I have never figured out how to create an MP3 from Audacity. Instead I export it as wav file and convert the wav to MP3 with an external converter (easy and also free)


If you are on windows you need to install the lame library ( free also ), then you will find the extra option for mp3 export directly from audacity.

I use this link.

http://downloads.tomsguide.com/Lame,0301-153.html


If you have a H2/4nZoom type recorder, there is a feature that allows you to encode a WAV file to mp3.


Lame enables you to record everything to mp3, everytime. Very convenient!


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Aren't 16 and 43 both entries by Khopin? I think he didn't understand there's only one entry per person -


Yeah... he did this earlier in the recital too. I emailed him and told him to pick one to delete, which he did, but then he resubmitted it again. ??? I've got another email in to him and asked him to delete one. If I don't hear back, I'll wield my awesome administrator powers and delete one myself. smokin

Also, this is a good time to remind everybody NOT to use international characters in your recital submissions. It messes up the software something fierce. Several of you are in this situation, e.g., whoever did the Tiersen Comptine piece. Please go back and clean them up before 9:00; otherwise I'll have to do it, and there's a chance I won't be able to figure out what it's supposed to read in the midst of the gobbledygook that is appearing on my side.

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And the name of the person submitting the Nocturne no. 20 at #51 (K���©nan)doesn't look right either


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Okay... the witching hour is anon. Hope everybody got their submissions in!


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In my brief spell as being Sam and running the recital index, I realized that people cheated and submitted multiple submissions with a single mp3 anyway. I'm not talking about a legitimate medley, but just two pieces back to back. I don't know that multiple submissions are any worse?!


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