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Self-learning -- two books? #2478495
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I see often on here that people mention they are using two books. Maybe an actual course book, then one with sheet music?

When can/should you add in just a practice book with music?

How do you structure your practice time each day? How much do you devote to each book?

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Re: Self-learning -- two books? [Re: beth83] #2478515
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Right from day 1, practice as many simultaneous pieces as your time allows. Spend a few minutes on each piece and move on. Repeat the same pieces each day. When you feel comfortable with a piece replace it with a new one to keep the same number. You should also do some sight reading and technical exercises.

I made a post recently about how I like to structure my practice:
http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubb...practice_piano_effectiv.html#Post2477560


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Re: Self-learning -- two books? [Re: Qazsedcft] #2478598
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Can I ask a really stupid question...

What exactly is sight reading?

I have read about it multiple places, and at first, I thought it was reading the music without actually being at the keyboard. Then I read somewhere that it said to "keep going" and "keep your hands on the piano" which made me think you are actually playing?

Can anyone explain this is layman's terms?

Re: Self-learning -- two books? [Re: beth83] #2478601
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Not a stupid question. thumb

You are going to get different opinions here on the internet, but most concur that sight reading is "playing a piece for the very first time while reading the score."

Having played it once, now you are at least somewhat familiar with it, or parts of it, so the next time you play it, it is not brand new to you, so the second playing of it is not sight reading.

Church pianists, pianists who play in restaurants, or play for dance schools, etc, will have times when a piece of music new to them is plunked down on the piano, and they have to play it "cold", without the opportunity to practice it. That is sight reading.


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Originally Posted by rocket88
Not a stupid question. thumb

You are going to get different opinions here on the internet, but most concur that sight reading is "playing a piece for the very first time while reading the score."

Having played it once, now you are at least somewhat familiar with it, or parts of it, so the next time you play it, it is not brand new to you, so the second playing of it is not sight reading.

Church pianists, pianists who play in restaurants, or play for dance schools, etc, will have times when a piece of music new to them is plunked down on the piano, and they have to play it "cold", without the opportunity to practice it. That is sight reading.


Perfect !

Now, let's hope that is the end of discussion.


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Re: Self-learning -- two books? [Re: beth83] #2478632
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Originally Posted by beth83


When can/should you add in just a practice book with music?



It is really up to you what you do if you are self learning. The optimal method of leaning piano is not written down anywhere because it is different for everyone. There is only a general rule: the more you practice the better you get. In saying that most beginners are limited with time and/or the ability to concentrate. This will limit the amount of pieces you work on and why the first year can seem dreadfully slow.

Working on more than three pieces at a time was difficult for me and I think it is better to home in on just several, than spread yourself out too thin. However where those pieces come from is up to you. You may for example wish to work on a method piece and let the lesson of the piece soak in for a while leaving you free to explore other works. You might see this as a reward system if you find the method tedious or demanding and enjoy playing pieces you know better. In the scheme of things the method book will teach concepts and keep you on a path but playing any sort of level specific repertoire will enhance your skills.

Structuring of practice will depend on what people are trying to learn and again will be different for most. Scales, arpeggios, technical exercises, sight reading all require time, if you decide you want to participate in them. However repertoire should always come first and I think there is a general consensus it should make up about 70% of your time.


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