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How hard/grade is Chopin Ballade no1?
#2473630 10/24/15 01:34 PM
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Im looking for a new challenging piece to learn and am willing to spend several months on it if necessary. As for my experience, I have been playing piano for about 8 years and can play several of Chopin's works with Waltz op64 no2 probably being the hardest one of his works that I know. If you consider Ballade no1 to be too far of a goal to set please suggest another piece that may be up to par if not harder than the waltz. Thank you!

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Re: How hard/grade is Chopin Ballade no1?
Michael Astourian #2473647 10/24/15 02:16 PM
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The G minor Ballade is streets away from Op.64/2 in terms of technical difficulty. There's really no comparison. (Op.64/2 is one of Chopin's easiest waltzes). Even some of the études are easier than the Ballade, including the Revolutionary. And the Fantasie-Impromptu.

Why not try Op.64/1, then Op.70/1? Both are short waltzes, but they'll prepare you for the Ballade in terms of finger agility and leaps, which you'll need in abundance for the Ballade. (Remember, they should be played much faster than Op.64/2).

Even then, there's still some way to go.......


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Michael Astourian #2473678 10/24/15 04:09 PM
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I remember that I played Waltz op. 64 no 2 when I was 12 years old. My teacher assigned me Ballade G minor 5 years later. During those 5 years I did many Chopin's pieces, but not only. It was time when I was starting in piano competitions, so I practiced 4-6 hours daily.
It should give you some insight how much work has to be done to be able to play this kind of pieces. Probably I could play it earlier, because during that time I did both Ballade Ab major and F major, but I consider them easier than G minor. Still it was a few years of intensive practicing to get from easy Waltz to any Ballade.

Don't mean to discourage you, but this is how it is.

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Michael Astourian #2473709 10/24/15 06:14 PM
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For reference Op 64 No 2 is graded as an 8 on the Piano Syllabus database, while the Ballade is substantially harder at grade 10. However the database has nearly 1600 entries for grade 8 pieces so there's no shortage of choice!


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