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Casio AP700 #2466932
10/06/15 03:27 AM
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Sounds like the unrefined little bro to the Hybrid Grand. Anyone played one?b


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Re: Casio AP700 [Re: peterws] #2466982
10/06/15 09:08 AM
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Not played it Peter, it is pitched at an interesting price point though that makes me wonder how well it will do in this case.

While I usually associate Casio with lots of bang for buck, in this case I wonder ...

It is not exactly cheap and you are still getting the same action as in a PX-160. The Casio AP 460 goes for exactly half that today where I got my price from.

- In a nutshell to me looks like the same action as of old

- New AIR sound source engine with the new piano sounds and quite a few extra sounds, as per GP300/GP500 and

- The slightly more powerful speakers over the AP-460, it actually looks very much the same as the AP 650 in that regard for cabinet and speakers, which is still quit a bit less in price as well.


Now is all that extra price worth that, it may be for some smile

OTOH you are getting close and are sandwiched between the price of a Kawai CA67 and CA17 as well, which most would say has the better more authentic piano action. Depending on the taste of buyer some may prefer the Kawai sounds samples or not.

That new sound engine is lot of money to pay IMHO over the older gen that is found in the PX and what I have in the AP-450.

The way I would look at it as well, price of my AP700 - AP450 leaves ample to buy some decent software sounds too. Is that new Berlin Vienna etc. really that good compared to the software options .... ?

Then, if the new hybrid action is indeed a massive jump, the GP300 is not that far away from the AP700 on the wallet.

I just feel at this price that this model should have had something little more/extra to lure me if I were buying one ( which I am not laugh ) , a slightly upgraded action perhaps ?

Not like the full hybrid of course, but an upgrade to the plastic action they have in most of their PX line etc. If in that price bracket my gut right now tells me look over to the Kawai stalls as well a bit more, something like a Kawai CA67 with grand feel for 150 or so more so .. attractive, or something else in that price bracket as well.

Just my 2 cents of course. smile

Note: I got the price from gear4music as an example where it is in stock, they may well go cheaper sooner than that, then things may change.


Last edited by Alexander Borro; 10/06/15 09:17 AM.

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Re: Casio AP700 [Re: peterws] #2466991
10/06/15 09:38 AM
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In simple terms, the AP-700 is basically the new AiR Grand Sound Source (from the GP-300) installed in the AP-650 cabinet. The buttons from the console of the AP-650 have been reassigned but have the same layout.

The new sound source has really impressed even novice ears to justify over the price of the AP-460, and I'm pleased with the early reception and sales.

As Casio's Celviano product ventures into competition with higher level models from other makers, speculative analysis like Alexander's will be warranted. I think your point about cost/benefit of software options is apt, however I feel the majority of users will prefer the simplicity of hardware pianos.

The gap between Casio's regular DP action and Grand Hybrid action is a chasm. Other makers do have actions that live in that gap, but I believe the sound source in the AP-700 is compelling enough to make it a very competitive product in its price range.


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