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So, $80,000 for a Bosendorfer 185. Larry Fine puts that at $102,000 SMP. Maybe in Japan they don't negotiate?

Fancy looking store. More pictures?

That price was not the only eye-opener. I looked at the final price for my C2X, and after all adjustments the "buy it in Japan and get it over to the U.S. anyway you can" price was under $19,000. The price difference were even larger with the bigger CX models. Maybe this is not surprising; When you add overseas shipping costs and reasonable dealer mark-ups it is going to cost more out of Japan.

Some other observations: There seems to be some discussion in other threads about the relative value between the C2X and C3X. I played both side-by-side and other than a bit more low register in the C3X, the overall sound was very similar. Please keep in mind that these pianos were in a very large room so perhaps the differences would have been more discernible in a smaller room?

The CF-series pianos were very nice, certainly way more expensive than the CX-series. But once again the differences were not easily perceptible.

As for the Bosie, well, I think in ANY sized room anywhere in the world those differences will be easily discernible. At this point I have had the pleasure of playing on a half-dozen pianos in the $70K-$100K+ range. In all cases (even the Yamaha CF series) the Bosendorfer seems to be in a class of it's own.

I should have brought Rich G. over here with me as my official piano tester.

So, $80,000 for a Bosendorfer 185. Larry Fine puts that at $102,000 SMP. Maybe in Japan they don't negotiate?

Brian, thanks for sharing and looking forward to hearing more! Looks like a beautiful showroom.


I was asked not to share what I was quoted, but the prices I was offered on the new Bosendorfers that I checked out were much lower than what I'd expected from the Piano Buyer numbers. My guess is that it's related to the high dollar vs Euro right now? Based on my recent shopping experience, a Bosendorfer is less out of reach than folks on this forum seem to think!

Brian, thanks for sharing and looking forward to hearing more! Looks like a beautiful showroom.


I was asked not to share what I was quoted, but the prices I was offered on the new Bosendorfers that I checked out were much lower than what I'd expected from the Piano Buyer numbers. My guess is that it's related to the high dollar vs Euro right now? Based on my recent shopping experience, a Bosendorfer is less out of reach than folks on this forum seem to think!

Oh boy, do NOT mention that! I just might go out and do something stupid...

Haha! They're still expensive pianos, just not as much as the SMP would suggest.

Throw some dollars at your C2X in tech work if you feel any urge to upgrade

Seriously we are quite thrilled with our piano, but it is interesting to note that if you walked into that store and had room for a 185 cm piano (and money to spend) you would have a clear choice.