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OT: Windows 10
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not yet.. but probably will tonight. ill be running it from my macbook pro through bootcamp.. interested to hear feedback from those who've made the jump as i haven't had time to read any reviews on any of the tech sites.

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I use OSX or Windows 7 at the moment. But now that they've decided to stop monetizing the OS I'll give 10 a try. Why not. They say some improvements have been made to Audio/MIDI but I'll believe it when I see it. We've heard that song and dance before.

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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
I use OSX or Windows 7 at the moment. But now that they've decided to stop monetizing the OS I'll give 10 a try. Why not. They say some improvements have been made to Audio/MIDI but I'll believe it when I see it. We've heard that song and dance before.

yep.on a toshiba encore tablet and at dell i5 laptop.
still on 8.1 my daw pc, i thnk i'll wait for that.
looks good,better ui than 8.1 , more user friendly.
both were upgraded,no issues .



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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
... But now that they've decided to stop monetizing the OS I'll give 10 a try.


Stopped? They have just started. You can not play Solitaire on Windows 10 without looking at ads or buying a subscription...


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Haha. Well good thing I don't play solitaire!

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No rush to try it for me, and I skipped the whole 8 generation. These days I have little interest in that the latest and supposedly greatest, and more have the attitude, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. smile

I installed windows 7 about 3 years ago on my current machine, with dual boot linux, no problems at all, no blue screens anymore that sometimes I got in XP and earlier windows days ( I skipped Vista also and never missed it apart from when I was forced to DX11 one day, so I went to 7 then from XP),

These days, never any OS crashes, 7 works well, and still serves me well, and my PC gets a fair work out, hours of calculations, using GPU and CPU and not a hiccup in that time and the audio stuff I now use for a year or so, it works great in 7 as well for me.

Seems looking around a lot of drivers are not around yet, but they'll probably work anyway with the older ones in many cases. I'll give it a few months and see how it is received and how certain apps run on it. I guess seeing it is free this time, that's a bonus, and I'll have to do it at some point anyway, but when I feel the time is right to jump ship, not just for the sake of upgrading because I can smile

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I've been able to keep some older devices working because Windows Vista 64-bit drivers work with Windows 7 64-bit, and I've had good luck digging up old Vista 64-bit drivers. Those drivers do not work with Windows 8 or 8.1 and I doubt very much they'll work in Windows 10. I'm attracted to the idea that Windows 10 runs in a much smaller footprint and the new low-latency stuff Microsoft's been touting. Might do some testing, at least.

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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
I use OSX or Windows 7 at the moment. But now that they've decided to stop monetizing the OS I'll give 10 a try. Why not.
Because Win 7 is an excellent and proven OS while Win 10 isn't. And MS is notoriously erratic with Windows, coming out with crappy versions at least as often as good/great ones. Why risk it?

I have 8.1 and don't like it, but it's bearable...plus there will be inevitable problems with software compatibility, needing new drivers, etc etc.

Also I've heard rumor (granted it's only that) that they are going to start charging subscription fees a la MS Office 365.

Pass...

(PS: I don't consider this totally off-topic as some of us are interested in using our PCs to record or otherwise expand our keyboard capabilities)


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I'm waiting for the Baidu edition.

kidding, made the jump to the free and ad-free Linux many, many years ago...


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There is an interesting article on the latency improvements of Windows 10 when using the WASAPI interface. It is on MSDN : https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/mt298187(v=vs.85).aspx

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I use a webcam to record myself, primarily to see and listen more carefully what I (an amateur) am doing. But I occasionally share the wmv files too.

MS dumped WMC lock, stock, and barrel from Windows 10. I do not use any other features of WMC, but I like to continue what I am doing as described in the previous paragraph.

Will I be affected if I upgrade?


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There's a lot of great info about Win 10 and its usability for musicians at

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/mus...-thread-post-your-expectations-here.html

including a lot of answers from a Microsoft rep.

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For me the main reason to upgrade would be extended support. Windows 7 support will end in 4.5 years. Windows 8.1 will last 3 years more. Windows 10 support will be supported until October 2025. So if you have a powerful pc with Windows 7 that may well last beyond January 2020, you will have to pay to upgrade then if you haven't done during the free 1 year window. Having said that I think I'll only upgrade my surface and some secondary PCs. I will not risk upgrading my 2 main PCs (Windows 7 and 8.1, both powerful i7 with lots of RAM) amd if I haven't replaced them by 2020 and 2023 I will pay to upgrade then....


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Originally Posted by Doritos Flavoured
I'm waiting for the Baidu edition.

kidding, made the jump to the free and ad-free Linux many, many years ago...


Me too.
Unless/until someone convinces me that there is ANYTHING of use in Windoze that doesn't have AT LEAST an equivalent in open source I'll stay where I am.
Faster fixes too, lots of "eyes on the code", fixes are a competitive pastime for many of the volunteer coders.

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I'm waiting for the Baidu edition.

kidding, made the jump to the free and ad-free Linux many, many years ago...


Me too.
Unless/until someone convinces me that there is ANYTHING of use in Windoze that doesn't have AT LEAST an equivalent in open source I'll stay where I am.
Faster fixes too, lots of "eyes on the code", fixes are a competitive pastime for many of the volunteer coders.


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In the process of upgrading now. My reason: I always have to have the latest version ASAP!

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For those with plans to free-upgrade to Windows 10, you may want to check this article out: Rolling Back From Windows 10 to your older OS appears problematic



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Working fine (tested with Pianoteq 4 only so far), despite the fact that the audio driver for my (very old) M-Audio Fast Track Ultra doesn't list Windows 10 compatibility. (it does support 8.1 though, so I'm not surprised it still works)

Also, I don't know why the author of that article that BeowulfX posted says "The initial upgrade process itself is needlessly long and complicated, too." This is BS IMHO.

Installed on my old Dell M4500 laptop.

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I'm trying to find a reason to upgrade. What will I get? A new boot screen? A new version of IE that I'll never use? Support for Outer Mongolian fonts?

Even getting past that ... upgrades are often ill-advised because:

- The upgrade OS may require a heftier machine. Unless your box is a recent upper-range computer, it wasn't built with the new OS in mind. XP users couldn't migrate to Vista. Why should we expect 7 users to be able to upgrade to 10?

- You have to wizard your way through the h*ll that is device compatibility. Will your gear work? Will there be driver support? Or will you have to replace this part, that part, and the other part? (That "free" copy of 10 is not free after all. No thanks!)

- The new OS will likely be buggy. I prefer to let the leading-edgers take the risk. I'll come along when I buy my next computer, and I'll have the smoothed out SP1 or SP2 version.

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