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Ravel's Alborada del gracioso
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Just ran across this on YT. Any thoughts?

I have been listening to a lot of Ravel and Poulenc lately.




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It's a great performance. I really liked his voicing. Each voice/melody he brought out shined in a different way/had different charachter, and they were all very clear.

I have the Andre Laplante CD with Miroirs, and it's also a fantastic recording. Another classic is Dinu Lipatti.

I listened to Figure Humaine a few days ago (Poulenc). Great piece, but terrifyingly difficult.

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Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
It's a great performance.

It really is! I don't think I've heard this guy before, but he's incredibly good.


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Originally Posted by argerichfan
Just ran across this on YT. Any thoughts?

I don't know, but I'm sure it blows Rachmaninoff out of the water.













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Hi, argerichfan -- Well, my thoughts:

1 Considering this piece was written in 1905, it demonstrates how "fully-formed" Ravel was as a composer by age 30. And since it predates "Iberia" by a couple of years, it makes me wonder whether Albeniz knew of this piece and incorporated some of the unique pianistic pyrotechnics into his magnum opus. Or, vice versa -- whether Ravel was very familiar with Albeniz's compositions and sought to exemplify some of their most attractive features.

2 For my taste, Pisarenko's approach is well-nigh perfect -- virtually no pedal at all; rhythmically incisive; play "what's written" without any obvious interpretive interjections. Although in general I dislike lumping together Debussy and Ravel (because they had quite different, close to competing aesthetic visions), they both had the common feature of providing quite detailed and clear instructions in their piano scores. And Pisarenko's virtuosic "chops" are so high that he can shape every line amidst the prodigious technical demands and provide the unique Ravel "shimmer".

3 Thanks for sharing this -- great listening!



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I think it's a great performance, though my personal opinion is that his interpretation doesn't really dance...it sort of just bounces along. I feel like his playing needs maybe more energy.

I personally prefer Richter and Lipatti.



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I don't have any thoughts other than my usual. Poulenc is good for you.

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Kuanpiano #2443521 07/21/15 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Kuanpiano

I personally prefer Richter and Lipatti.


Lipatti, of course, is the go to in this piece. I hadn't heard Richter, but found this on YT:



BTW, in playing through this piece, I wonder if it's kosher to use the fist on the low Bb in measure 29?



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Originally Posted by toyboy
Poulenc is good for you.

His concerto for two pianos is pure magic. The end of the first mov't sets the stage for the opening melody in the 2nd mov't and makes it seems almost inevitable. One of Poulenc's many moments of genius!

At uni I sang in an informal performance of the Gloria, and several years later accompanied it on piano for a church performance. Alas, the piano reduction cannot possibly do justice to Poulenc's ingenious orchestration.

I have also accompanied several of his songs. They deserve a place in any singer's repertoire.


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I've seen many pianists use the fist on the low B flat. I think it's just a personal choice, but it is rather fun.

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Classic Arts Showcase has Richter ripping off all those double glissandi - ouch...

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I find Pisarenko's Ravel (also his Barque) quite faultless, that is: clean and virtuosic and stylish and all that it has to be. I like Lipatti more, and Richter and Gilels, they mess about more, but they have 'Soul', Ravel must have liked that.


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