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Re: New GEAR alert!
phunqe #2424985 05/26/15 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by phunqe

For me, I want the pitch controller as far to the side as possible so it's easily controlled with one finger only (thumb).
When you have it too far in, you can't rest your hand on the side and you risk pressing keys with your palm (or even stage clothes depending on the performance obviously :P)

That's my experience at least, I find it more comfortable and secure if you can rest part of your palm on the side while controlling the pitch. It's more stable and you can use the pitch extensively without needing to hold the whole weight of the arm in a somewhat uncomfortable position.


Yes, to this. I was also going to say, despite the campaign to get the keyboard length down by moving the control wheel above the keys, that there are good reasons for keeping them down to the left of the keys where your control is better, more comfortable and less likely to make mistakes due to pressing keys or not having a secure hold.

There are strong arguments on both sides - I'd prefer to sacrifice the convenience of shorter slab for moving round to better performance control - especially for live.


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Re: New GEAR alert!
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Originally Posted by gracegren
I am also so looking forward to Roland coming up with a LIGHTWEIGHT digital piano, even 73 keys is fine. Even 64.

Amen to that!

Howsabout an RD-760 Roland? Artist's conception of it done right, with the joystick NOT in the keybed area and A on the bottom (top octave chop):

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I'd dump our RD-700NX in a heartbeat for that.

Yes, yes, and yes! This is such a no brainer. It mystifies me that the concept is apparently so elusive for most keyboard makers. I mean, duh. help

Re: New GEAR alert!
phunqe #2425046 05/26/15 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by phunqe
For me, I want the pitch controller as far to the side as possible so it's easily controlled with one finger only (thumb).

Yeah, I was kinda rushing it. How's this?

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Also, I moved everything over so the screen lines up with the center black keys.

[EDIT] Though, to make it my dream machine, it would need 9 sliders, and a music rest, and SN everything.

Originally Posted by toddy
I'd prefer to sacrifice the convenience of shorter slab for moving round to better performance control - especially for live.

Yes, portability first in a ostensibly portable DP.

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Re: New GEAR alert!
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Originally Posted by dewster
Originally Posted by phunqe
For me, I want the pitch controller as far to the side as possible so it's easily controlled with one finger only (thumb).

Yeah, I was kinda rushing it. How's this?

[Linked Image]

Also, I moved everything over so the screen lines up with the center black keys.

Originally Posted by toddy
I'd prefer to sacrifice the convenience of shorter slab for moving round to better performance control - especially for live.

Yes, portability first in a ostensibly portable DP.


thumb Now we are talking!

Re: New GEAR alert!
JayGVan #2425160 05/26/15 05:12 PM
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Jay, what's the word on the action they chose for this board?. More similar to the FA-06 and VR-09 or the one on the Jupiter 80?

Re: New GEAR alert!
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I'll make a point of asking the guys in service tomorrow if they have this information. I'm at head office for some meetings, so IF i can steal away long enough to get the info, I'll post when I can.

Aftertouch works a treat on it though.

Jay


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Re: New GEAR alert!
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Following up.

The word i got is that the action is Jupiter Style.

Aftertouch works a treat!

Have a few patches where I've used the AT to bring in filter sweeps, and re assigned wheels 1 & 2 to do LFO rate and CROSS Modulation. Really expressive.

I've now started using the Mic input as well to control Cutoff or resonance. The human voice is a spectacular controller for synth parameters. Haven't messed much with the vocoder yet, but appears to be very powerful, based on my short tests so far.

The sequencer is robust and powerful too. Easy to operate, and fast to get to a musical result.

This synth is a winner. A nice combination of classic Analog Roland Synthesis/Filtering, and capability that can only be accessed by the addition of the SuperNatural VA Synth engine. It has a very fat sound and is extremely playable and programmable.

Can't wait to get a SYSTEM-1M to play with it.

Jay


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Re: New GEAR alert!
JayGVan #2429887 06/08/15 07:08 PM
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That's good to hear, Jay. Action on the FA-06 tiki bah

Action on the Jupiter-80 is 3hearts

But I still have to play it to believe it.

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Sorry, but out needs to be said. Could you make that graphic any more annoying? mad

Re: New GEAR alert!
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Hey, Jay, thanks for the response. Somehow I didn't notice it at the time you posted. Of course, you are right. I should have known better. I'll just wait eagerly for whatever comes next. thumb
Originally Posted by Jay Roland
I've had my hands on it for an hour so far and WOW!

Action is beautiful. Don't know what it compares to or comes from, but feels great.

SOUNDS incredible. Huge Fat, Distinctly Roland. The crossover concept is very well executed.

49 keys is plenty for anything I've tried or played so far on it.

I know Im a Roland guy, but I think we have a winner on our hands here.

jeffreyfranz. Sorry man, but you know that no company rep would ever comment on any future products that may or may not be in development. So even IF there was, I'd be risking my employment, by offering anything either way.

Jay

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Sorry, but out needs to be said. Could you make that graphic any more annoying? mad


More or less annoying than.....

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Re: New GEAR alert!
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ElmerJFudd, I like the Roland-rolled-into-one graphic. Is it actually something Roland are using to sell their new hybrid synth or is it something you cooked up?


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Re: New GEAR alert!
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Ha ha, actually that one has been floating around the internets for a while now. I think it's fan made, as opposed to Roland marketing. They call this an animated gif. little video loop of consecutive pictures, like those picture books from when I was a kid and you'd thumb through it like shuffling cards.

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Originally Posted by dewster

Yeah, I was kinda rushing it. How's this?

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Also, I moved everything over so the screen lines up with the center black keys.

[EDIT] Though, to make it my dream machine, it would need 9 sliders, and a music rest, and SN everything.


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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
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Sorry, but out needs to be said. Could you make that graphic any more annoying? mad


More or less annoying than.....

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Well, if those are my choices, I think I'll go with the dog. eek

Re: New GEAR alert!
JayGVan #2441184 07/13/15 06:36 PM
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Pre-production unit review.
[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=145&v=64uk__7ryZY[/video]

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JayGVan #2450699 08/14/15 08:19 PM
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Got to play it today. Local shop got two in and had one unboxed on the floor, was nice enough to hook it up to some monitors for me to play awhile.

Size wise, deeper than I thought from pictures. Fairly light, not heavy by any means. Yep it's shiny black and lights up all over in red.

The analog side does sound pretty good. Especially on the brassy and stringy stuff. I did realize pretty quick that I wish it was 6 voice, 8 would be nice, ha ha. But yeah, 4 is nice for chording but then you have to get creative with bass or lead parts. But I guess that's what the digital side is for. It has all the sparkly bells and whistles in the presets that you would assume Roland would do. Various filter types sound nice. Lots and lots of FX types and parameters. I especially liked the tape style delay.

Layout is pretty easy to figure out, just a few things I couldn't figure out right away without a manual. For example, turning on the ARP is a button, but not sure where you set the pattern or the note duration. SEQ is simple to figure out. You have a lot of control over each individual voice in both the digital and analog sections, or you can edit them at the same time.

Over all, pretty neat synth. Keys are OK only, I didn't find them markedly better than the FA-06 - if they are supposed to be, I don't know. No after touch is odd, since the synth does respond to it if you have another controller hooked up. But there are pitch and mod wheels as well as roland's joystick pitch mod dual thingy and they are assignable. Plenty to explore if you are into programming your own sounds.

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