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#2409970 04/13/15 08:13 PM
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Anyone have experience with this and thoughts? I stumbled on it (its existence) by accident and looks like it might be a viable, cheaper option to the 350 I was considering, esp if I buy some DAW software. How's the sound and feel?

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hey, bill.

i invite you to read this thread from The Keyboard Corner.
Casio WK7600 and Elitism

Also, here is the manual for the WK7600.

You will find information about connecting the WK7600 to your computer on page 145. It appears that this model is USB MIDI class compliant as there is no information about installing a driver. When you make the USB connection to your computer, Windows will recognize a new device as a MIDI keyboard and it will be called, "CASIO USB-MIDI DEVICE". So whatever DAW software you decide to go with, that's what you are looking for when selecting MIDI input device.

Here are some offers on the WK7600 from Kraft Music.
Kraft Music Casio WK7600 and bundle offers.

Here are some offers on the WK6600
WK6600 at Kraft - bundle offers included.

Here is the manual for the WK6600
WK6600 manual

It appears to use the same class compliant USB MIDI that is in the WK7600.

You have to work within your budget. Either of these keyboards would be fine. In which case you save you money for a good DAW. Later on you can add an audio interface and some powered speakers. But you'll want decent head phones now.

Best.

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Thx very much. As I said elsewhere, it's just a bleeping shame there isn't a place near me that has both...heck no place has either, they're all about top end DPs. And when I mention less expensive ones, surprise, they try to convince me why I need to buy pricier stuff.....

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You'd better find a way to try this before you buy it, else you may be in for disappointment when you actually purchase and play it. I have similar keyboards, the old Casio Privia PX-3, a decent light-weight stage piano, and the cheaper WK6500, a keyboard that is similar to the 6600, and one that can best be described as a "toy" keyboard, and there is a WORLD of difference between the two in the quality of the build, the feel, the sound and the durability. You get what you pay for, and unless you desire cheap, don't buy cheap.

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Petes1 makes a good point:

. . . A DP (or workstation) can have nice specs,
. . . and have disappointing sound and feel.

You really need to get to a store, and try some of these out. The Casio "WK" series might be hard to find. The Yamaha "MX" series will be easy.

"Guitar Center" (which has both online & brick-and-mortar stores) has the full Yamaha line, but not the Casio "WK" series. "zzounds.com" (online) has the WK-7600, which I think is the top of that particular line:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--CASWK7600

But as petes1 says, you really need to play and hear it, side-by-side with a similar Yamaha.

Keyboard size:

Classical piano needs 88 keys.

A lot of jazz and pop is playable, live, with less -- probably 61 keys (a standard synth size, for a long time) is minimum. Split the keyboard if desired -- LH plays string bass, RH plays piano or EP.

I have a MicroKorg XL+ with 37 keys. It's fine for one-hand live playing (keyboard bass, or RH jazz), and too small for two-hand playing. [All small keyboards have an "octave switch", that will let them cover the whole range of pitches, in sections.]

You need advice from somebody who's done multi-track projects (which is how you're tending) about whether 49 keys is adequate. I suspect it is; not many "real" instruments have more range than that.

Complicated, eh? <g>

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Thx...I feared as much. But playing these is likely not an option, unfortunately, so the inputs appreciated.

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I think this really depends on your playing experience. Were you brought up using an acoustic piano?. Was it half way decent?. If not what sort of player are you? Pop/Rock? Jazz/Classical? Do you even want or need a weighted action?. Or are you content with a synth action?

Deciding these things will clarify what your price bracket is.

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I bought a 6600 recently after trying it out at Guitar Center. I liked it much better than the bigger Casios and the <$1500 Yamahas except for the P255 which I thought was excellent but bigger and heavier with limited features. I like that the 6600 has 76 keys, and a very quiet keybed, no thumping. It's light and small.

I don't care for the built in speakers, not much bass, but I bought a self powered speaker, a Logitech Z623 which isn't as nice the older Z2300 that I have,but still does a good job of bringing out the bass, particularly when I use rhythm and bass accompaniments.

The 6600 tone is not great but acceptable with the tweaking that you can do. I use a VI (TruePianos Atlantis) when I want a better tone.

I do spend most of my playing time on my Yamaha acoustic upright but the 6600 is convenient for quiet practice and portable use. And for $250 on holiday sales I don't think it can be bettered.

Btw: All the key actions on the WKs are the same, the more you pay the more features you get.

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Originally Posted by Charles Cohen
Petes1

"Guitar Center" (which has both online & brick-and-mortar stores) has the full Yamaha line, but not the Casio "WK" series.


???

The Guitar Center carries the full WK Series:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Search/...=&fsrc=casio%20wk&src=casio%20wk

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Here's what I got, clicking on "Casio WK-7600 . . . " in their popup list:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Casio-WK-7600-76-Key-Portable-Keyboard-109999151-i3571547.gc

Maybe a problem with their search engine ?

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? Came up OK for me.

Anyway, I don't get this about that machine:

MIDI
GM Compatibility: Level1
Terminals: USB

What's that mean in English? Can I record w/that or not, or what if any limitations does it have?

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It means the keyboard can send/receive MIDI - which is how you are able to play a software piano on the computer. It is responding to note on/off messages being sent from the keyboard over the USB cable.

GM Compatibiilty - not horribly important for what you are doing. It just means the keyboard can play back General MIDI files and will call up the right sounds (piano, bass, drums, trumpet, etc.) when doing so. I don't think you're going to be doing that, so forget it.

USB - that's the cable you connect the keyboard to the computer with. A terminal is the place you stick it in! lol

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Can I record w/that or not, or what if any limitations does it have?

Yes, in post #2410001 I explained that these entry level Casios have USB ports and will be recognized by your computer as class compliant MIDI devices, so you WILL be able to play software/virtual instruments with it.

Now, Bill. Make a decision about what your budget is and make a purchase. wink

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up front note: I was reading that all as one thing, not 3. I was thinking "what's a MIDI USB, sounds inferior" smile

Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd

Now, Bill. Make a decision about what your budget is and make a purchase. wink
lol - working on that - but also still working on just how I plan to spend my precious $ (lesser keyboard and DAW/etc or screw that and just a better keyboard, so forth and so on). Don't plan your calendar on this smile


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