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Any Apps/Software Similar to Yamaha's "NoteStar"?
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Not sure whether this is the correct forum to post this question, but here goes....

I use Yamaha's NoteStar app (iOS) to occasionally "play along" with recorded performances. NoteStar provides both the sound tracks and scrolling sheet music of the piano/keyboard part and allows you to slow it all down to learn it. It's great for what it is, but my problem is that it doesn't offer songs from some pop artists that I'm interested in. (Bob Seger, for example).

So, I was wondering whether there are any other similar apps or PC software offering a wider range of pop songs. Any info or links on apps and/or software which might fit the bill would be appreciated.

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Re: Any Apps/Software Similar to Yamaha's "NoteStar"?
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Notation Musician/Composer and Rallentando's MIDI Illustrator are similar to this NoteStar app. You can feed MIDI files to them, and they show it as sheet music. MIDI Illustrator has the waiting feature, waits for you to hit the right notes, Musician and Composer do not. Of these, only MIDI Illustrator has a keyboard showing which notes to play according to the notes in the MIDI file.

Synthesia is another one, though the sheet music display is rather primitive. The owner has promised to improve it, though it's not clear when the promised improvements will be made. Home Concert Xtreme has all these features and some more.

Which features are you after? Only a MIDI player with sheet music display, or all these other features as well? If a sheet music display with a keyboard, showing where the notes fall, is enough, and with no inter-activity, then something like MIDI Sheet Music could suffice, and that one is free. The other ones I've mentioned are not free, except as trial versions at most.

Edit None of these apps I mention, come with any free MIDI files, at least not for pop/rock songs, you have to provide them yourself.

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Originally Posted by TheodorN
Notation Musician/Composer and Rallentando's MIDI Illustrator are similar to this NoteStar app. You can feed MIDI files to them, and they show it as sheet music. MIDI Illustrator has the waiting feature, waits for you to hit the right notes, Musician and Composer do not. Of these, only MIDI Illustrator has a keyboard showing which notes to play according to the notes in the MIDI file.

Synthesia is another one, though the sheet music display is rather primitive. The owner has promised to improve it, though it's not clear when the promised improvements will be made. Home Concert Xtreme has all these features and some more.

Which features are you after? Only a MIDI player with sheet music display, or all these other features as well? If a sheet music display with a keyboard, showing where the notes fall, is enough, and with no inter-activity, then something like MIDI Sheet Music could suffice, and that one is free. The other ones I've mentioned are not free, except as trial versions at most.

Edit None of these apps I mention, come with any free MIDI files, at least not for pop/rock songs, you have to provide them yourself.


Thanks for your thoughts on this, but I don't think any of the software titles that you mentioned are similar to NoteStar.

NoteStar does not use MIDI files at all. You purchase what amount to audio files with scrolling sheet music, and it allows you to mute the audio file's piano/keyboard track so that you can play along as the pianist/keyboardist. In effect, it supplies the back-up band and singer and your score. The whole thing can be slowed down to 75%, 50%, and (I think) 25% for learning purposes and can be transcribed to any key.

There's really no need to hookup your DP or piano to the iPad at all. You just need to be able to hear the iPad's output.

I'm familiar with some of the software you mentioned (Home Concert Extreme and MIDI Illustrator) and they are completely different from NoteStar.

NoteStar does NOT use original artist's versions of the music, but is still pretty unique in what it does. I was just wondering whether there is anything similar on iPad or PC that might cover other artists music.

Note: I know how to read music, so I don't need something like synthesia. I guess the best way to describe it is that I just want to "play along as a member of the band" to pre-recorded tracks.

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OK, thanks for clearing it up, then I can't help you much, it's out of my league. I don't know about anything close to what you describe, there are some programs that notate audio files, but require lots of afterwork, and most certainly don't provide accompaniment simultaneously.

The notation programs are about all I use with my computer, apart from viewing sheet music as PDF files. By the way, Synthesia also has notation display, I use it by and by, to improve my sight reading skills. That is, I can also read notes, but only at a snail's speed.


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That Notestar app sounds intriguing - thanks for posting about it.

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Originally Posted by sullivang
That Notestar app sounds intriguing - thanks for posting about it.

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You're welcome. Here's a link to a Youtube video that shows its features. Note, though, that NOT all songs support the "hands separate" practice illustrated in the video. (None of the songs that I've purchased do....)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TECDHeU03WU


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so the biggest limitation then is it'll only work with songs that Yamaha has fixed up for you, eh? That's pretty limiting to the point of almost useless.

and while you're learning the song, it doesn't even wait? Won't you be spending a lot of time hitting it's rewind button? Or else maybe spend a lot of time hitting a "next line of sheet music" button? Hopefully there's some kind of looping feature.

I'm not sure I'm seeing any advantages over plain sheet music...


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Originally Posted by Stephen Hazel
so the biggest limitation then is it'll only work with songs that Yamaha has fixed up for you, eh? That's pretty limiting to the point of almost useless.

and while you're learning the song, it doesn't even wait? Won't you be spending a lot of time hitting it's rewind button? Or else maybe spend a lot of time hitting a "next line of sheet music" button? Hopefully there's some kind of looping feature.

I'm not sure I'm seeing any advantages over plain sheet music...


There is.


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