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How to seat my piano better on the stand
#2398396 03/15/15 12:26 PM
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Any piano experts know how to seat this better on the stand? It really doesn't seem stable as it wobbles. This is the stand that was, "made" for this piano, but I almost feel like a folded towel on each side would make it fit better. Anybody with more experience know what I am missing?

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Memory foam might help.



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Looks like you have it too high. How far from the floor to the top of the keys? My privia is set to 28 inches. Lowering the stand will increase stability. Your bench is lower relative to the keys, but that may depend on your body proportions. My bnch sits about 4 inches above the cross of the x braces. Your is even. Its hard to judge without pics of you playing from a couple of different angles.

If that doesn't help there are always zip ties.

This is a generic stand,not one specific to your keyboard

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Originally Posted by Dru Morgan
It really doesn't seem stable as it wobbles.

Of course. It's a X-stand.
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I set mine forward, so the front edge sits on the rubber ends. that means the back edge doesn't sit on the rubber, but it seems to work for me.

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Apart from the wobbling... how on earth do you get your legs in there, and pedals??

Second link of 255 seems a better solution, if you don't want to go with a wooden 'cabinet' (not sure if they make one for this piano).


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Jytte, foir my set up, I have a board that keeps my pedals positioned with about an inch in font of the cross braces. He only thing under the stand is my feet. I suspect the reason the OP has his bench and stand positioned this way is to try to get his legs under his stand. Having the keyboard at the front will also make sure he doesn't have his legs underneath the stand.

Duble X stands are stable if positioned correctly. Not like single X stands.

Cathy, do you stand or sit for practicing/perorming?

If the duct tape or zip ties don't work, my last suggestion is velcro. If that fails time for a new stand.


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Silly question, but are you sure you don't have it upside down?


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I've done both, sit and stand. I always stood when the band played anywhere - there were so many of us that I just figured we needed the room.

I keep my pedal from moving by backing it up to a couple of bungee cords I have looped around the bottom floor braces. It's easily movable to adjust to either the placement I need when sitting or standing - further back when I'm sitting, further forward when I'm standing.

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I had a similar issue with a lightweight Yamaha Piaggero which is quite narrow. Move the keyboard to the front of the stand. Cut the ends out of the rear rubber grips and slide them in so they are under a solid part of the keyboard. You might need to slot them around the supports and make good with some gaffa tape. Alternatively buy some foam pipe insulation from your friendly hardware store. Check out photos on Bellbuoy144 page in Google+

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Another vote for foam pipe insulation from a home improvement store. It is usually about 1/2 inch thick and should slowly compress enough under the weight of your DP to hold it securely. The pipe insulation usually is black in color, so it will look like part of your stand.

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Pipe insulation might work.

Adhesive-backed Velcro will surely work. It's cheap and reliable. Put four half-wraps around the crossbars of the X-stand. Put four rectangles on the bottom of the piano, matching the position of the half-wraps.

Position the piano on the stand, and press it down gently. It won't slip.

If you need to disassemble everything, just hold down the stand with your feet, and lift the piano off.

There are "high-strength" variants of Velcro. The original stuff is easy to find in fabric stores. The "high-strength" stuff is in Home Depot and other hardware stores.

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One other thought:

. . . Are the top crossbars parallel to each other?

If the whole stand is slightly twisted out of shape, twist it back _into_ shape.

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Originally Posted by jotur
I set mine forward, so the front edge sits on the rubber ends. that means the back edge doesn't sit on the rubber, but it seems to work for me.

That's exactly what I do when I use an X stand. Seems to be more stable that way. Also take a look at the rubber. Some keyboard stands have different thickness of rubber so that you can rotate it to get the perfect balance. Mine has a flat spot so it connects to the keyboard better.

Does it rock on the floor too or just the keyboard doesn't feel stable on it? They're not really "made" specifically for each keyboard. It's more of a weight rating and how many beams it has.


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It is "square" (not bent/twisted), sits securely on the floor. Sliding the keyboard forward helped. I will look for the pipe insulation as that seems intuitively to give it what it needs. Though, honestly, a "plank" of wood laid out on top would give it a perfectly flat table-like surface to sit. I might look for a nice piece of wood.


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That X stand style of keyboard stand is the cheapest to make and may work -ok- with a non weighted keyboard (which a real piano player would NEVER use except in a pinch). Digital pianos have more weight than those lite key excuses for keyboards. And they are gonna wobble all over the place.

Up your game and get a real stand with 4 metal legs, or one of those dual Z metal stands. Or, you know, deal with the wobble.

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Dru Morgan #2399693 03/18/15 01:32 PM
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Yes, they do make a full wooden stand for this model (Yamaha P105) which includes the three pedals. I might have to make the jump. You know, if I want to be a "real" piano player.


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Originally Posted by Stephen Hazel
That X stand style of keyboard stand is the cheapest to make and may work -ok- with a non weighted keyboard (which a real piano player would NEVER use except in a pinch). Digital pianos have more weight than those lite key excuses for keyboards. And they are gonna wobble all over the place.

Up your game and get a real stand with 4 metal legs, or one of those dual Z metal stands. Or, you know, deal with the wobble.

Good luck to ya.


Stephen, I use a Double X stand similar to the OP's with a Casio Privia. No extra support. The stand is rock solid. I had a single x stand before this one, which was flimsy.


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