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Installing Keybed into a desk
#2399240 03/17/15 11:05 AM
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Hi, I am a film composer with a somewhat strange question.
I have a Korg Trinity ProX that I use as a master controller when composing with the computer. I am searching for a slimer controller (10cm height max).

There aren´t any digital pianos with this height so, I want to remove the keybed from the case and insert it in my desk, leaving the electronics hidden behind.

I know a lot of people do this with doepfer and studiologic keyboards but I cannot try them in my country. (I would have to import them without test).

So my options are:
1. Buying a Doepfer Pk88 (fatar tp/40GH) and installing it.

2.Buying a digital piano (I liked the yamaha p35 because it has somewhat lighter touch than the px150) and then disassembly it and install the keybed.

There´s also a kuzweil mps10f (fatar tp/40L) on sale nearby but I haven´t seen any review of it.

What are your thoughts?
Thanks!!!

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Pablo1980 #2399256 03/17/15 12:14 PM
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I've seen the P80 installed into a generic case before, 47 seconds into this video...


Probably no reason you couldn't disassemble a P35 and do similar.

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How about instead of a digital piano just use a controller? the Roland A-88 is is approximately 11.6 cm high which I believe includes the joystick, the rest of the board is shorter about 10cm.
And the Alesis Q8 is 8.9 cm high.
The Arturia Keylab 88 is about 10.89 cm.

All of the above are much smaller than the Korg ProX 88


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Pablo1980 #2399294 03/17/15 01:47 PM
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Nice video Elmer ! so, it seems it´s doable.

I have looked to at the roland, but I can´t test it here. The Alesis and Keylab are not available. Also, I have read that digital pianos have better keybed than controllers (I don´t need modwheel, pitch or knobs).


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There are companies that make composer desks.

I've pu a board under my digital piano and mounted a slide out keyboiard drawer underneath it. Totally removable and much less work thnn disasssembling a dp. Put the monitor on a table behind the dp. This was mny recording set up years ago. Now I use a korg nanokontrl to run reaper.


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Hi, thanks for the input.
I have a custom made desk, with a drawer, but the PC keyboard and mouse surface is too high and I am having back pain when working long hours.

So, I wanted to have the music keyboard and the Pc keyboard and mouse roughly at the same high. Hence my quest for a very slim piano, or using only the keybed (I am not the only one!)

I will go and test the kurzweil Mps10F (with fatar tp/40L) it´s 9cm tall, and I am looking for an all around action (piano, organ, strings, percusion). If it isn´t any good, I will have to go back to the idea of disassembling a digital piano.


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Pablo1980 #2399666 03/18/15 11:26 AM
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It seems I cannot test the kurzweil with fatar action, only buy it directly. Do you have any experience with this keyboard? It would be a perfect solution (not too heavy keybed, very small footprint).

Thanks!

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Pablo1980 #2399671 03/18/15 12:06 PM
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I don't know about you, but I wouldn't be able to stand the poor feel of the doepfer or kerzweil. I gotta have the yamaha keyboard action (cp-33 or similar).

any chance you can build your own desk or chop into the one you have? You could make a bracket to suspend the keyboard by it's feet positions. (Sort of like 4 L brackets with holes for the feet to sit in. Your goal is for the key height to be right, right? If you have woodworking skills, you could build something along the lines of... http://pianocheetah.com/piano/rig.html

I'm kinda guessing that your desk is fancy furniture, though...


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