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Re: 3 against 2. How to learn, practice? [Re: Michael Sayers] #2391741
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Originally Posted by Michael Sayers
The difficult one is 3.1 against 2 wink.

I've never seen the scales written out on paper in three vs. two. I can do it for C Major and then put it here . . . unfortunately not tonight though, or maybe tonight, we'll have to see . . .


Here's an example :

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Re: 3 against 2. How to learn, practice? [Re: BruceD] #2391750
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And here is another, as a one octave span infinitely repeating pattern in each hand:

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Depending on how your scales are it might be best to keep to this rather than wind up simultaneously practicing both long scales across the keyboard and 3 vs. 2.

When you are ready, transpose a bit through the keys . . .

Re: 3 against 2. How to learn, practice? [Re: vevurka] #2391787
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Originally Posted by verqueue
One of the Nouvelles etudes by Chopin is based on 3 against 2 if I remember correctly. I don't know your level, so can't tell if it's managable for you.


Yes, it's the first one! It's a wonderful ├ętude. It's how I originally learned to play 3 against 2.
Verqueue, you can download the score here: http://imslp.org/wiki/3_Nouvelles_%C3%A9tudes,_B.130_%28Chopin,_Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric%29

Here it is, played by Ashkenazy:

Chopin 3 Nouvelles Etudes

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Re: 3 against 2. How to learn, practice? [Re: Mr. Franz] #2392121
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There are plenty of Scriabin pieces to consider as well, just look at the Op. 11 Preludes. Much of that should be fairly accessible.

Re: 3 against 2. How to learn, practice? [Re: Michael Sayers] #2392129
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Surely one of the most appealing (and easy) pieces that feature a lot of 3:2 is Debussy's Arabesque No.1......


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