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Anyone seen this blurb from Roland in their mailbox?

http://www.roland.co.uk/blog/lang-lang-and-roland-inspiring-the-next-generation-of-pianists

Roland partnering with the world's most famous classical pianist to inspire children. grin

I was at his previous event in London, when Steinway took up the mantle and provided 50 Essexs and Bostons (and a D for Lang Lang) at the Royal Festival Hall. The collective sound of 202 hands playing 51 grand pianos shook the roof in Beethoven's 5th.

How would 50 Rolands sound in comparison? wink


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Oh well.
(Must quickly throw one of these low-cost recordings of an uneven piano played by Sviatoslav Richter into the CD tray wink .)

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Originally Posted by bennevis
Roland partnering with the world's most famous classical pianist to inspire children.)


Inspiring them to do what? Pull extremely distracting faces whilst playing I presume.

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Roland partnering with the world's most famous classical pianist to inspire children.)


Inspiring them to do what?

Inspiring them to play classical music (rather than pop, new age or other rubbish, or even more rubbishy computer games.....).

blog.southbankcentre.co.uk/2011/05/23/lang-lang-inspires-a-triumph

http://youtu.be/9aO6_ONXp-Y and http://youtu.be/ULu3Yd8VKyo


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Roland partnering with the world's most famous classical pianist to inspire children.)


Inspiring them to do what?

Inspiring them to play classical music (rather than pop, new age or other rubbish...


Ouch. You're saying pop and new age are rubbish? Perhaps you're implying anything other than classical is rubbish?

I don't ask to show disagreement (although personally I do disagree), I just ask because I'm interested. But I'd be all for encouraging young people to appreciate classical music.

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Most music is rubbish. And I think the proportion of rubbish in pop music is much higher than in classical music.

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What, no dalmatians?

Dude started at 2 1/2! I wonder how long it took for him to show promise or actually play anything? My wife tries not to take students under 5 or so as below that they generally have trouble sitting still for very long and focusing.

Lurv those wiiiiiid music rests!

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Most music is rubbish. And I think the proportion of rubbish in pop music is much higher than in classical music.


Well that's because the 'rubbish' classical music has been long forgotten. There will have been mountains of it. Only good stuff tends to endure. Most pop music will be forgotten in 100, 200 or 300 years. But the good stuff will endure. But bennevis's comment seems to be very much about whole genres being rubbish. I find it that an interesting view these days.

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Originally Posted by EssBrace
Ouch. You're saying pop and new age are rubbish? Perhaps you're implying anything other than classical is rubbish?


From the point of view of music teaching, 'Classical' is significantly more challenging to a child than 'pop' or 'new age'. This is not always true, but almost always: learning a Bach fugue stretches you intellectually and practically in a way that learning, say, Whiter Shade of Pale (based on Bach chord progressions) simply does not.

In comparison, the richness of pop often lies in the originality of its construction of sound in a way that 'classical' does not to such a degree - so the originality of the texture and timbre combinations matters much more, in pop, relative to content.

New Age is OK as a background wash of cliched arpeggios and twee arrangements of thirds and sixths supported by broken fifths It's like wallpaper as opposed to a painting. It seems neither to state, nor question, nor even to negate. Fine, but hardly challenging to a kid learning music. You can teach children to colour in pictures, or to copy pictures, or still life scenes in detail or to design, sketch and paint pictures from their own imagination. They are not all the same, nor (in my opinion) of the same value as skills acquired.

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Toddy, I don't disagree with much of what you've said. I am fairly ignorant about new age so can't really comment. But in any event you raise a slightly different issue. Labelling or at least implying whole genres are rubbish is becoming a less prevalent view these days I would think.

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Yes - the issue I was raising was from a didactic point of view, since the clip is about teaching children piano. It is not a matter of a genre being rubbish so much as its being less useful for educating children in the best, or most effective way.

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Ahh, fellas. Could it be that we are now old enough that we do not 'understand' the modern era music? I have a sneeking suspicion that in their respective eras Bach, Beethoven, etc were not fully understood and seen as heretics with whatever came before.

I can see it now... In 200 years it will be Bach, Beethoven, Brahms, Beeber.. The mighty four B's!! smile


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I'll be attending and working this same event in Vancouver on March 17th. Roland Canada will be involved in this for the second time.

We've done it once previously in Toronto. (Last year I think.) It was a roaring success.

The children will be playing HP504's. Nice pianos and very well suited to the task.

I don't know (or really care for that matter) how Roland became involved in this, but I'm happy that we did.

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Ha! Beiber. My fear is that he dies young and thereby acquires some sort of mystique as a result (a bit like James Dean sans talent). As long as he makes it to 30 we might be okay.

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Originally Posted by pspicer
Ahh, fellas. Could it be that we are now old enough that we do not 'understand' the modern era music? I have a sneeking suspicion that in their respective eras Bach, Beethoven, etc were not fully understood and seen as heretics with whatever came before.

I can see it now... In 200 years it will be Bach, Beethoven, Brahms, Beeber.. The mighty four B's!! smile


If you mean 'Bieber', then, with the greatest respect, NO and 1000 times NO. On the other hand 'Bird' (of bebop fame) or Beatles ....or dozens of other remarkable creative minds in pop/rock or jazz, then the question is more difficult. smile


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... with the greatest respect, NO and 1000 times NO...

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Everyone here really enjoy a 100-piano performance?
As for me, just so so, but I do enjoy a good circus stunt smile
I would probably in most cases prefer a well-orchestrated performance with only 1 piano grin


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Originally Posted by doremi
Everyone here really enjoy a 100-piano performance?

You haven't lived until you've heard 101 pianists pounding out the chord of C major fortissimo (at the end of Beethoven's 5th Symphony) on 51 grand pianos...... wink


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