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Casio CDP-100 MIDI #2386963
02/16/15 10:30 AM
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I'm a newbie to all of this MIDI connecting stuff... I read somewhere I need to install drivers etc., but I'd really appreciate a full step-by-step guide how to connect my piano to my PC (without any controllers) and record a song.
Thanks in advance,
Uros

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Re: Casio CDP-100 MIDI [Re: Urkeboy] #2386978
02/16/15 11:07 AM
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According to the manual , the CPD-100 is rather limited input/output wise.
The easiest way to create a recording would be to take the headphone output and connect it to the audio in or mic input jack on your computer's audio card. Most likely this would be a 1/4" stereo to 1/8" stereo cable. You would then use some audio recording software on your PC to record what you are playing.

This is quick and dirty and will work, but I doubt the sound quality will be satisfactory to you.

Alternatively, a more professional solution would be to get a MIDI to USB Adapter and use a software piano, like Pianoteq 5 which will provide you a very nice sounding piano within your computer, the ability to record what you play and export as an audio wav.


Re: Casio CDP-100 MIDI [Re: Urkeboy] #2387000
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Uros,

You have an older model digital piano with only standard MIDI outputs. You will need either a MIDI interface or Audio Interface with MIDI to connect to a computer. The drivers you need to install come with the interface, not the keyboard. (Note, newer keyboards may have a USB connection to your PC. This is when you need to install the software that comes with they keyboard.)

You will connect the MIDI or Audio Interface to your computer via USB or Firewire (depending on what the interface uses) and then connect the keyboard via MIDI cables from keyboard to interface. Install the software that comes with the interface. The MIDI cables go from OUT on the keyboard to IN on the interface for the first cable and the second goes from IN on the keyboard to OUT on the interface.

If you get a firewire interface, do not unplug the interface from the computer until they are shut down. I think you must shut down the computer, but it is safer to shut both down. Not following this instruction may damage one of the ports on the interface or computer. I had to replace the firewire interface on my computer because I did not follow this rule. That said, I think USB is a bit more common and more reasonable.

Why use an audio interface instead of MIDI?
- On a PC, most sound cards are not designed for the low latency required by controlling software by a keyboard. Basically, you press a key and the standard drivers introduce a noticeable delay before you hear the sound.
- The driver type you need is called ASIO
- A very few Sound Blaster cards support the driver standard that runs with low latency. See here: http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?sid=7358
- As an alternate, there is a "universal" ASIO driver that may work. Again this is just for PCs, not Apple computers. Asioforall is the name of this driver.
- I can't speak to the Apple line as I don't have any current experience with Macintosh.
- You can get many more options for inputs and outputs.

Why use MIDI?
- Much cheaper and often quite smaller interface.

Next, you need some software on the computer. Some of this may come with the included interface.

First part is a DAW (ditigal audio workstation)
- I think Macs come with software. Garage Band? If you have a Mac, let us know and someone will probably talk to them.
- On PCs you can use one of the following (these are the ones I hear about the most):
- Reaper - free to try and very reasonable to buy. It has not expiration, just a please buy me pop up at the start. This is what I use.
- Cubase
- Cakewalk Sonar
- Logic Pro
- Ableton Live
There are a lot more and there are some free ones as well, but my understanding is you really get what you pay for on these.

There will be a lot of software instructions and tutorials to help you set up your DAW.

When you have done this, then you can record MIDI commands. Note that this will not sound like your keyboard and will not sound like a piano at all. All MIDI does is record the commands not the sounds. So I press this key with this velocity, I modify these settings, etc. You can play it back through the MIDI interface into your keyboard to make your keyboard play.

To make the computer sound like you are playing, you need a software instrument. Lots of them out there and again, You get what you pay for. I have used: TruePianos, PianoTeq, Native Instruments Alicia's Keys, Best Service Galaxy Pianos Vienna Grand, and New York Concert Grand. For non piano sounds I have Garritan Personal Orchestra, SampleTank 2 XL, and Miroslav Philharmonic. There are free options as well, but I'm not that familiar with them.

This is a lot to understand, and you may need additional explanations. Here is a thread from the ABF forum that also talks about this. http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubb...o%20hook%20up%20a%20digital%20piano.html

Take some time to digest this and ask any questions you still have.


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Re: Casio CDP-100 MIDI [Re: ElmerJFudd] #2387037
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If I use the MIDI-USB adapter, I just plug it in and start Pianoteq 5 and it's good to go?

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Re: Casio CDP-100 MIDI [Re: Urkeboy] #2387038
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Re: Casio CDP-100 MIDI [Re: CyberGene] #2387040
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Which driver should I use if I do that?

Re: Casio CDP-100 MIDI [Re: Urkeboy] #2387058
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The driver comes with the USB Adapter. you will get a disk with it or download it from their website.



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