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What else do I need to tune a grand? #2379885 01/30/15 03:30 AM
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I have been tuning my upright for a couple of years now.

I have the #1982P kit from http://www.vandaking.com/piano-tuning-kits-Schaff.html

That is, a Schaff-Hale #16 hammer with whatever #2 tip was included in the kit ("All the tuning hammers come equipped with the industry standard #2 Star tuning tip").

To tune a modern grand, would I need anything else such as some sort of extension for the head or similar?

Also, where can I buy a good #2 tip such as Jahn?


Nordiska 120CA (Dongbei) upright from about 2004, Kawai MP11 digital piano, Sennheiser HD 600 headphones.
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Re: What else do I need to tune a grand? [Re: pinkfloydhomer] #2379889 01/30/15 03:49 AM
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I have needed tip extensions more for uprights than grands: player pianos, many times. Sometimes I need a shorter one to fit under desk slides on grands, but not very often. Sometimes you just have to unscrew the slide.

I use different mutes for grands, but otherwise, it is pretty much the same whether it is a grand or an upright. The mutes for uprights have handles, and I use a stiffer felt muting strip, which holds better if the plate is just below the strings.

If your tip is not fitting snugly on the tuning pins, it is probably the size, rather than the quality of the tip. I use a #1 tip when the #2 is resting on the coil. I have different head/tip combinations, rather than trying to get the tip off the head.


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Originally Posted by BDB
I have needed tip extensions more for uprights than grands: player pianos, many times. Sometimes I need a shorter one to fit under desk slides on grands, but not very often. Sometimes you just have to unscrew the slide.

I use different mutes for grands, but otherwise, it is pretty much the same whether it is a grand or an upright. The mutes for uprights have handles, and I use a stiffer felt muting strip, which holds better if the plate is just below the strings.

If your tip is not fitting snugly on the tuning pins, it is probably the size, rather than the quality of the tip. I use a #1 tip when the #2 is resting on the coil. I have different head/tip combinations, rather than trying to get the tip off the head.


So other than a #2 tip, and perhaps a "thin-walled" #2, would you
recommend having a #1 tip?

What do you use on over-sized pins, that have replaced loose pins?


Re: What else do I need to tune a grand? [Re: pinkfloydhomer] #2380064 01/30/15 02:06 PM
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How will you tune?

Mute strip? You need two more, three total.

Open unison? You should be ok with your wedges.

ETD? You're fine.

I am a professional full-time piano tuner. I have been tuning for 15 years. I only have a regular extension hammer with #2. I've never had an reason to use extesion tips. Just get used to tuning with your left hand at 9:00. A good understanding of stability and you will flounder much less, with less searching for the right pitch and pin placement.


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