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#2392508 - 03/01/15 02:29 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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It takes years of hard work to start playing decently. But many people here are doing it or have already accomplished that. "Decently" means different things to different people, therefore my definiton is no worse than the next person's.

Learn to read intervals - this is useful in the long run.

Practice in chunks of time - 20 minutes per piece or several times throughout the day, every day.

This community makes me feel connected to mature, sensible, intelligent people who conciously pursue hard work, support one another and share their experiences productively and respectfully. This might sound a bit dull on the outside, but is such a refreshing difference from the way we live now and use social media.

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#2393078 - 03/02/15 10:06 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: _silvia_]
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Originally Posted By _silvia_
It takes years of hard work to start playing decently. But many people here are doing it or have already accomplished that. "Decently" means different things to different people, therefore my definiton is no worse than the next person's.

Learn to read intervals - this is useful in the long run.

Practice in chunks of time - 20 minutes per piece or several times throughout the day, every day.

This community makes me feel connected to mature, sensible, intelligent people who conciously pursue hard work, support one another and share their experiences productively and respectfully. This might sound a bit dull on the outside, but is such a refreshing difference from the way we live now and use social media.


I agree with the feeling of connectedness. I do not post daily but read every night before bed.

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#2393201 - 03/03/15 08:00 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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It is a journey and we are not alone. There are ups and downs in the learning and the motivation and the success. Talking about the learning makes it more fun and sometimes helps us discover ways around the obstacles.
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#2393773 - 03/04/15 01:33 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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I've decided that the best thing I've learned was to get a good teacher. Yesterday, I had another great session with my teacher. There's no way I could have advanced as far as I have without my teacher.
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#2394199 - 03/05/15 11:40 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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The best thing I've learned was to understand that I'm not alone in this journey.

The 2nd thing I've learned was that I memorize pieces with ease, so I can play by memory any piece I've learned in the past years. I only understood that I had this "skill" after reading a post about "How to memorize a piece?" - I thought that memorizing was a natural process for every player.
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#2394320 - 03/05/15 04:12 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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Ha! Non-existent in some. frown
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#2394461 - 03/05/15 10:02 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: CarlosCC]
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Originally Posted By CarlosCC
The best thing I've learned was to understand that I'm not alone in this journey.

The 2nd thing I've learned was that I memorize pieces with ease, so I can play by memory any piece I've learned in the past years. I only understood that I had this "skill" after reading a post about "How to memorize a piece?" - I thought that memorizing was a natural process for every player.


Ha, I wish! Reading is one thing, memorizing, for me, poses an entirely different challenge.

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#2394576 - 03/06/15 08:15 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: HalfStep]
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In some ways being able to memorize pieces quickly can be an issue. For me, once I have pretty much memorized any piece, I tend to back off on really reading the notes on the page.

I think this leads to other issues.
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#2394636 - 03/06/15 11:02 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: BrianDX]
CarlosCC Offline
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Originally Posted By BrianDX
In some ways being able to memorize pieces quickly can be an issue. For me, once I have pretty much memorized any piece, I tend to back off on really reading the notes on the page.
I think this leads to other issues.


In my case it's not just "quickly"; it's also "permanent". I do nothing to memorize; I even don't think about that.
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#2394808 - 03/06/15 05:18 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: BrianDX]
HalfStep Offline
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Originally Posted By BrianDX
In some ways being able to memorize pieces quickly can be an issue. For me, once I have pretty much memorized any piece, I tend to back off on really reading the notes on the page.

I think this leads to other issues.


I agree! I've found the that when I memorize something ( like a small section)I will not read and get lost when I look back at the music. My daughter is younger so I make sure she's sight reading and playing new things all of the time. She memorizes easily and that adversely affected her reading early on. I've definitely remedied that.

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#2398555 - 03/15/15 07:25 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: _silvia_]
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Originally Posted By _silvia_
This community makes me feel connected to mature, sensible, intelligent people who conciously pursue hard work, support one another and share their experiences productively and respectfully. This might sound a bit dull on the outside, but is such a refreshing difference from the way we live now and use social media.


+1. I also find the international nature of this forum inspiring, that so many people from every corner of the planet share very much the same dream to learn piano and support each other. International organizations have something to learn from us.
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#2398597 - 03/15/15 10:06 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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Best thing I've learned here -- That there can be musical communities that are really all about love of the music.
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#2398663 - 03/16/15 01:37 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: 8 Octaves]
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Originally Posted By 8 Octaves
Originally Posted By _silvia_
This community makes me feel connected to mature, sensible, intelligent people who conciously pursue hard work, support one another and share their experiences productively and respectfully. This might sound a bit dull on the outside, but is such a refreshing difference from the way we live now and use social media.
+1. I also find the international nature of this forum inspiring, that so many people from every corner of the planet share very much the same dream to learn piano and support each other. International organizations have something to learn from us.


I wholeheartedly concur with the above comments. I was particularly struck by the International aspect of our community this evening while listening to the submissions to the ABF Schumann Recital. Isn't it amazing how classical music can bring people together !! thumb
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#2398809 - 03/16/15 11:49 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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Registered: 03/10/15
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Live for the process, not the goal.

If your only motivation to play is some goal in the future (such as playing a specific piece, or being better than your neighbor), you will view practice as work for fulfilling a goal, rather than viewing the process as the reward, as the part of your day you look forward to.

When you start to live for the process of practicing, your practice becomes playing, and you create a motivation that is purely intrinsic. You will improve, you will enjoy yourself, and every time you sit in front of your 88 keys, you will be exactly where you want to be in your journey of a beautiful instrument.

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#2399505 - 03/17/15 11:21 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: Tralexer]
HalfStep Offline
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Loc: Boston, MA
Originally Posted By Octaves_Up
Live for the process, not the goal.

If your only motivation to play is some goal in the future (such as playing a specific piece, or being better than your neighbor), you will view practice as work for fulfilling a goal, rather than viewing the process as the reward, as the part of your day you look forward to.

When you start to live for the process of practicing, your practice becomes playing, and you create a motivation that is purely intrinsic. You will improve, you will enjoy yourself, and every time you sit in front of your 88 keys, you will be exactly where you want to be in your journey of a beautiful instrument.


Regardless of what information is being conveyed many negate the concept of "process." The outcome is revered but the application is underrated. That is, I appreciate your stance.

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#2412199 - 04/20/15 06:12 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
Albunea Offline
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Loc: Spain
I've learnt I am not the only one trying to start with the piano after her 40s, and some other things I've been reading about. I can't even remember exactly, but I was getting ideas before buying my first piano like one month ago.

I am learning I have lots to learn… laugh smile

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#2412334 - 04/21/15 03:30 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: Albunea]
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A lot of people here have started late in life. It`s no barrier to achievement either. Stuff on the recitals and piano bar bear testimony top that. Have fun! It can be hard work at times. That`s the time to have a break.
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#2412353 - 04/21/15 05:24 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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Hello, peterws smile Recitals and piano bar sounds good. I'll have to find that place.

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#2412861 - 04/22/15 02:42 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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I don't post every day but read it everyday.. one thing I learned early on (3 months ago.. lol) Get the piano tuned!

huge difference and it felt great when I sat down on the bench..
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#2418427 - 05/08/15 05:38 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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Quote:
. . . This community makes me feel connected to mature, sensible, intelligent people who conciously pursue hard work, support one another and share their experiences productively and respectfully. This might sound a bit dull on the outside, but is such a refreshing difference from the way we live now and use social media.


YES ! YES !

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#2418808 - 05/09/15 10:21 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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That I enjoy the people who are even more nerdy and geeky about Piano than me. Even when I don't understand a thing that goes on in the Piano Tuners forum!
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#2423454 - 05/22/15 08:13 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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A couple of years ago, I had bought some books with the intention to self teach until I got stuck. I didn't join here, but read some posts and realised that the advice was solid, that a good teacher is even more important at the beginning, as unlearning bad habits would be difficult.

So I decided to be patient and wait till I could have regular lessons ( although it will be fortnightly, not weekly at this point). I think it was the right decision, but without this forum I would have plunged right in at the deep end and tried to run before I could crawl.

I occasionally came back and lurked, and the way you all encourage each other is great motivation to keep going when it gets hard.
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#2424482 - 05/24/15 11:59 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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Loc: Greece
I would love to have a teacher but after paying for lots of activities for my kids (including music) I can't afford it, so the best thing I've learnt here is rather than struggle along with books to teach myself, there is pianomarvel.com, and I think it's brilliant!

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#2424557 - 05/25/15 08:54 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: Springmissy]
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Originally Posted By Springmissy
I would love to have a teacher but after paying for lots of activities for my kids (including music) I can't afford it, so the best thing I've learnt here is rather than struggle along with books to teach myself, there is pianomarvel.com, and I think it's brilliant!
thumb I agree the learning tools and approaches available to us nowadays are amazing. For Piano some of them border on miracles!
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#2424558 - 05/25/15 08:57 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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The best guiding principle I've picked up, is that all practice and learning should be focused on getting better control ... with the end goal being mastery. Mastery of yourself 1st and the instrument 2nd ...

wow
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#2424564 - 05/25/15 09:21 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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Ok, Groove On, now I'll have to start a thread to ask what is "Control at the piano".

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#2424580 - 05/25/15 10:03 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: Albunea]
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Originally Posted By Albunea
Ok, Groove On, now I'll have to start a thread to ask what is "Control at the piano".

thumb Whee!
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#2432454 - 06/16/15 12:07 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: earlofmar]
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Earl,

I signed up for Piano World forum a long time ago and might be active regularly. It will be interesting to see what people have written and what they will write! I've already seen some intriguing posts and responses. You've written over 2000 times I see. Impressive!

-Ryan
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#2434427 - 06/22/15 10:27 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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I've learned that if I spend half as much time at the piano as I do on Piano World, I may turn out to be a pretty decent pianist after all.
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#2434480 - 06/22/15 12:40 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: Moonsh1ne]
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That means about 6 hrs per day in the forum?
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