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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
[Re: casinitaly]
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I think one of the most important things I've learned is that "it isn't just me" -- it really does take a lot time to gain the necessary skills, and I have to be patient with myself. Knowing that others struggle with the baby steps and are impatience with (lack of) progress, really helps me hang in there when I feel I am crawling rather than stepping. It helps me keep my perspective.
(Yes, ok, I still need reminders every now and then!)
I second and third what you have written and I have a great teacher thanks to a Piano World friend whose name try as I might can't remember. Thank you Piano World
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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The best thing I've learned here so far is that playing by ear is not a gift, it can be learned ... + a few members here told me where to go online to get that training. Paid off big time.
Rerun "Seat of the pants piano player" DMD
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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To make periodic recordings to critique myself and to measure my progress.
So much music and so little time! ----------------------------------- 1916 Mason & Hamlin BB Yamaha P155
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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I've learned it's never too late to start a new instrument and never give up. +1 And enjoy the journey ....
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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1) I learned how to shop for a piano. This site helped me through two piano upgrades. Until I came here it had not occurred to me that part of the reason I sounded so bad and did not enjoy practice was that my original horrid old piano should have been firewood 80 years ago.
2) MOYD has helped me to get my practice schedule going, so consistency and understanding of good practice techniques were important lessons learned.
MH1963 '63 Mason & Hamlin Model A ![[Linked Image]](http://forum.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/medium/9339.png) Working on: Chopin - Mazurka 7 No. 2 / The Prayer - Coates Arrangement / Einaudi - Nefeli
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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One of the best things I ever learned, only one of the best, that I will mention- the simple rule I first learned here which is why I came here. An accidentaled note is sharped, flatted, naturaled on the same following notes in that measure/bar but only if it is in the same octave. I don't believe I have ever read that in any workbook or theory book.
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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I was taught every note in the bar after the accidental, no matter what octave, is affected by the accidental. I would use courtesy accidentals just to make sure. The issue is not who's right, but more how can we reduce ambiguity.
Oh, my best thing? P5 in equal temperament beat 0.5 beats per second narrow, not 0.25, which I thought and taught for years!
Also, that posting on a public forum is a skill in itself.
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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It is a rule they don't want n in writing. One of those things for those in the know.
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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One of the best things I ever learned, only one of the best, that I will mention- the simple rule I first learned here which is why I came here. An accidentaled note is sharped, flatted, naturaled on the same following notes in that measure/bar but only if it is in the same octave. I don't believe I have ever read that in any workbook or theory book. See for eg: Theory Essentials 2nd ed. Connie E. Mayfield p8 Ch I The Basics of Reading Music When any accidental (sharp, flat, or natural) is placed in a measure of music, it stays in effect on that particular line or space until the end of the measure, a segment of music de-lineated by a vertical line (or bar line) crossing all lines of the staff. The accidental does not affect any other line or space on the staff, including other lines or spaces that have the same letter name. It is canceled by the next bar line or by a natural sign within the same measure. This is an important rule to remember when naming notes, because a single accidental can affect several other notes within a measure. Practical Theory Complete A Self-instruction Music Theory Course - Sandy Feldstein p29 Lesson 27 Flats, sharps and naturals are called ACCIDENTAL signs. When they are placed before a note, they affect every note on the same line or space for an entire measure. A natural sign cancels the flat or sharp within the same measure. A bar line also cancels an accidental. When a note is tied across the bar line, it's accidental carries acros also.
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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1.) PW introduced me to the music of Ludovico Einaudi and David Nevue. 'Nuff said.
2.) Concentrate on setting the "fractures" in a piece (i.e., playing a few measures before, during, and after a particularly tricky passage).
3.) Don't just practice a tricky section until you play it right. Once you get it right, play it again until you can play it 7 times in a row correctly. Monica - I have to say that your Youtube videos are an inspiration for me. Someday, I intend to be playing like you already can. Regards, Tony
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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I met a lot of wonderful piano friends here and received a lot of encouragment, which helped me with my piano goals. I love being here and I hope I'll not be kicked from this subforum.
that will never happen, we value your opinions too much as well as enjoy being reading about your journey.
Problems with piano are 90% psychological, the other 10% is in your head. 13x ![[Linked Image]](http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/gallery/42/thumbs/7728.jpg)
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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that "beginners" speak in an strangely advanced and unknown language.
"Motivation is simple, you eliminate anyone who isn't motivated." - Lou Holtz.
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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I've learned some new skills in dissecting and analyzing problems/methods of study, through somewhat heated debates.
Czerny's Piano School Vol. 1. Reviewing basics/ear training/analysis in interesting exercises. Opus 599. Now at #77 and giving it a break.
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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that "beginners" speak in an strangely advanced and unknown language. Amen friend! When I first looked at the postings here I was thinking "These are beginners!!!!!" So far for me the most useful thing I've learned is that there are You Tube videos of the lessons in Alfred's Adult Beginner's book. Those have been extremely useful for me!
Kawai ES8 Yamaha P105 Yamaha YPT220 A lack of talent does not stop you from learning piano. It just takes longer and you have to work harder.
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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The most important lesson I've learned here: Piano is a long term project. no matter how hard i work or practice, it's going to take a long while. Play every day for a year and you are still at the beginning of the learning curve. i need to remind myself of this when things get frustrating (and it is VERY much at times)
********************** Loving/Suffering through Alfred's Adult Book #1
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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One of the best things I ever learned, only one of the best, that I will mention- the simple rule I first learned here which is why I came here. An accidentaled note is sharped, flatted, naturaled on the same following notes in that measure/bar but only if it is in the same octave. I don't believe I have ever read that in any workbook or theory book. I really have to share a "student" tale here. I had a very serious little girl studying with me years ago. She was very anxious to learn and obeyed my every instruction to the letter. One day I explained to her the rules of the "accidentals" ... carefully pointing out that they applied to only one measure and only one octave. I thought I'd given a stellar explanation until the following week when she came for her lesson. We opened her music and I noticed she had carefully applied "white-out" to every accidental. I was puzzled and asked her why. "Oh Miss .... you told me they were "accidents" so I took them out." Sometimes you have to be careful what you say to a very conscientious student.
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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One of the best things I ever learned, only one of the best, that I will mention- the simple rule I first learned here which is why I came here. An accidentaled note is sharped, flatted, naturaled on the same following notes in that measure/bar but only if it is in the same octave. I don't believe I have ever read that in any workbook or theory book. See Elaine Gould's Behind Bars (the current "bible" of music notation), page 78: "An accidental holds good for the duration of a bar. It applies only to the pitch at which it is written: each additional octave requires a further accidental"
Steinway A grand (1919), Richard Lipp grand (1913), Yamaha P2 upright (1983), Casio PX-150 digital (2013)
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Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
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Seems that "it comes with practice" is the answer to most of our questions... I would prefer to say it comes with experience. Practise should be something deliberate.  Like dynamobt, I think the recitals are the best thing. There are several resources on the 'net for increasing the efficiency of our practise but the one I remember most begins with "Listen!" (Dr. Brent Hugh). There's nothing that lifts our performance or ability more than careful listening and nothing that makes us listen more than making a recording for others. Yes, I am finally understanding this. Because you encouraged me to be in the ABF recital I now see how I can incorporate recording into my regular practice sessions. I'm starting my session today with the Mozart Fantasia I'm working on!
Carl
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