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#2375659 - 01/19/15 08:00 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
alans Offline
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I've learned it's never too late to start a new instrument and never give up.

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#2375720 - 01/19/15 11:50 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: casinitaly]
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Originally Posted By: casinitaly
I think one of the most important things I've learned is that "it isn't just me" -- it really does take a lot time to gain the necessary skills, and I have to be patient with myself. Knowing that others struggle with the baby steps and are impatience with (lack of) progress, really helps me hang in there when I feel I am crawling rather than stepping. It helps me keep my perspective.

(Yes, ok, I still need reminders every now and then!)




I second and third what you have written and I have a great teacher thanks to a Piano World friend whose name try as I might can't remember. Thank you Piano World smile


Edited by musdan (01/19/15 11:52 PM)

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#2375784 - 01/20/15 06:12 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: musdan]
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The best thing I've learned here so far is that playing by ear is not a gift, it can be learned ... + a few members here told me where to go online to get that training. Paid off big time.
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#2375797 - 01/20/15 07:26 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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To make periodic recordings to critique myself and to measure my progress.
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#2375806 - 01/20/15 08:13 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: alans]
EM Deeka Offline
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Originally Posted By: alans
I've learned it's never too late to start a new instrument and never give up.

+1 And enjoy the journey ....

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#2377365 - 01/23/15 10:18 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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1) I learned how to shop for a piano. This site helped me through two piano upgrades. Until I came here it had not occurred to me that part of the reason I sounded so bad and did not enjoy practice was that my original horrid old piano should have been firewood 80 years ago.

2) MOYD has helped me to get my practice schedule going, so consistency and understanding of good practice techniques were important lessons learned.
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#2377435 - 01/24/15 05:26 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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1. Slow down, they all said again and again. I thought, "What? My beginner's default speed is near non-movement so how do I slow down?
A year or so later when each tiny incremental increase in speed brought out a joyful "Yippee, I'm learning!" the last thing I wanted to do is slow down.
Finally, three years into the process it became clear. Slow down before it all goes sideways. Really. Slow down.

2. Try to find a good teacher if time and finances allow. We tend to work only our strengths. The teacher will find and work those annoying weaknesses.

3. Don't get discouraged when the swarm of adult responsibilities gets in the way. When the gnats get thick and piano practice has to take a back seat even five minutes a day on the keys will continue forward momentum.

4. Piano is hard work from beginning to forever. Accept this as truth or risk a quick exit with tail between legs.

5. Selecting a piano is as personal as selecting a best friend. With benefits.


Edited by Tararex (01/24/15 05:28 AM)
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#2377808 - 01/25/15 12:35 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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Only ONE best thing? Where to start?!

The very first which comes to mind is finding out that there are companies out there that will spiral bind your music albums. Thank you to whoever recommended it; I've now had all of mine done. I'd never have thought of it, and yet it makes so much difference.
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#2377965 - 01/25/15 01:14 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: Tararex]
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Originally Posted By: Tararex
............ 4. Piano is hard work from beginning to forever. Accept this as truth or risk a quick exit with tail between legs.........


+1 This would serve well as our new ABF slogan.
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#2378003 - 01/25/15 03:05 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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One of the best things I ever learned, only one of the best, that I will mention- the simple rule I first learned here which is why I came here. An accidentaled note is sharped, flatted, naturaled on the same following notes in that measure/bar but only if it is in the same octave. I don't believe I have ever read that in any workbook or theory book.


Edited by LindaR (01/25/15 03:07 PM)
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#2378031 - 01/25/15 03:59 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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I was taught every note in the bar after the accidental, no matter what octave, is affected by the accidental. I would use courtesy accidentals just to make sure. The issue is not who's right, but more how can we reduce ambiguity.

Oh, my best thing?
P5 in equal temperament beat 0.5 beats per second narrow, not 0.25, which I thought and taught for years!

Also, that posting on a public forum is a skill in itself.


Edited by Mark Cerisano, RPT (01/25/15 04:02 PM)
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#2378123 - 01/25/15 08:45 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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It is a rule they don't want n in writing. One of those things for those in the know.
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#2378332 - 01/26/15 01:43 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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1.) PW introduced me to the music of Ludovico Einaudi and David Nevue. 'Nuff said.

2.) Concentrate on setting the "fractures" in a piece (i.e., playing a few measures before, during, and after a particularly tricky passage).

3.) Don't just practice a tricky section until you play it right. Once you get it right, play it again until you can play it 7 times in a row correctly.
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#2382012 - 02/03/15 07:45 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: curlyfries]
EM Deeka Offline
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Originally Posted By: LindaR
One of the best things I ever learned, only one of the best, that I will mention- the simple rule I first learned here which is why I came here. An accidentaled note is sharped, flatted, naturaled on the same following notes in that measure/bar but only if it is in the same octave. I don't believe I have ever read that in any workbook or theory book.


See for eg:
Theory Essentials 2nd ed. Connie E. Mayfield
p8 Ch I The Basics of Reading Music
Quote:
When any accidental (sharp, flat, or natural) is placed in a measure of music, it stays in
effect on that particular line or space until the end of the measure, a segment of music de-lineated by a vertical line (or bar line) crossing all lines of the staff. The accidental does not
affect any other line or space on the staff, including other lines or spaces that have the same
letter name
. It is canceled by the next bar line or by a natural sign within the same measure.
This is an important rule to remember when naming notes, because a single accidental can
affect several other notes within a measure.


Practical Theory Complete A Self-instruction Music Theory Course - Sandy Feldstein
p29 Lesson 27
Quote:

Flats, sharps and naturals are called ACCIDENTAL signs.
When they are placed before a note, they affect every note on the same line or space for an entire measure.
A natural sign cancels the flat or sharp within the same measure.
A bar line also cancels an accidental.
When a note is tied across the bar line, it's accidental carries acros also.




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#2382017 - 02/03/15 07:54 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: Monica K.]
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Registered: 12/08/07
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Loc: Twin Cities
Originally Posted By: Monica K.
1.) PW introduced me to the music of Ludovico Einaudi and David Nevue. 'Nuff said.

2.) Concentrate on setting the "fractures" in a piece (i.e., playing a few measures before, during, and after a particularly tricky passage).

3.) Don't just practice a tricky section until you play it right. Once you get it right, play it again until you can play it 7 times in a row correctly.


Monica - I have to say that your Youtube videos are an inspiration for me. Someday, I intend to be playing like you already can.

Regards,

Tony
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#2382077 - 02/03/15 10:44 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
Bobpickle Offline

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Registered: 05/24/12
Posts: 1393
Loc: Cameron Park, California
How much I lacked discipline to master the skill (or really any, for that matter). This humbling realization has really helped me out in all aspects of life, let alone simply improving at the instrument.
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#2382079 - 02/03/15 10:47 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
Valencia Offline
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Registered: 12/06/11
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...the wonderfulness of piano friends.

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#2382758 - 02/05/15 02:53 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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I met a lot of wonderful piano friends here and received a lot of encouragment, which helped me with my piano goals. I love being here and I hope I'll not be kicked from this subforum.

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#2382809 - 02/05/15 04:53 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: vevurka]
earlofmar Offline
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Originally Posted By: verqueue

I met a lot of wonderful piano friends here and received a lot of encouragment, which helped me with my piano goals. I love being here and I hope I'll not be kicked from this subforum.



that will never happen, we value your opinions too much as well as enjoy being reading about your journey.
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#2383346 - 02/07/15 08:36 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
tbonesays Offline
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that "beginners" speak in an strangely advanced and unknown language.
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#2383417 - 02/07/15 12:30 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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Loc: Orig. land of Svear&Götar
I've learned some new skills in dissecting and analyzing problems/methods of study, through somewhat heated debates.
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#2383939 - 02/08/15 07:16 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: tbonesays]
Finfan Offline
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Originally Posted By tbonesays
that "beginners" speak in an strangely advanced and unknown language.


Amen friend! When I first looked at the postings here I was thinking "These are beginners!!!!!"

So far for me the most useful thing I've learned is that there are You Tube videos of the lessons in Alfred's Adult Beginner's book. Those have been extremely useful for me!
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#2385037 - 02/11/15 04:45 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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Loc: Brooklyn, NY
The most important lesson I've learned here: Piano is a long term project. no matter how hard i work or practice, it's going to take a long while. Play every day for a year and you are still at the beginning of the learning curve. i need to remind myself of this when things get frustrating (and it is VERY much at times)
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#2385044 - 02/11/15 05:12 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: tbonesays]
EM Deeka Offline
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Originally Posted By tbonesays
that "beginners" speak in an strangely advanced and unknown language.


.... which could be easily picked up wink

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#2386423 - 02/14/15 11:40 PM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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The absolute best thing I have learned from piano world. And I wouldn't have found it without piano world.
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#2386478 - 02/15/15 03:05 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: curlyfries]
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Loc: Hawaii
Originally Posted By LindaR
One of the best things I ever learned, only one of the best, that I will mention- the simple rule I first learned here which is why I came here. An accidentaled note is sharped, flatted, naturaled on the same following notes in that measure/bar but only if it is in the same octave. I don't believe I have ever read that in any workbook or theory book.


I really have to share a "student" tale here. I had a very serious little girl studying with me years ago. She was very anxious to learn and obeyed my every instruction to the letter. One day I explained to her the rules of the "accidentals" ... carefully pointing out that they applied to only one measure and only one octave. I thought I'd given a stellar explanation until the following week when she came for her lesson. We opened her music and I noticed she had carefully applied "white-out" to every accidental. I was puzzled and asked her why.

"Oh Miss .... you told me they were "accidents" so I took them out."

Sometimes you have to be careful what you say to a very conscientious student. laugh

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#2386506 - 02/15/15 04:46 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: curlyfries]
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Registered: 11/05/14
Posts: 511
Loc: Germany
Originally Posted By LindaR
One of the best things I ever learned, only one of the best, that I will mention- the simple rule I first learned here which is why I came here. An accidentaled note is sharped, flatted, naturaled on the same following notes in that measure/bar but only if it is in the same octave. I don't believe I have ever read that in any workbook or theory book.


See Elaine Gould's Behind Bars (the current "bible" of music notation), page 78:

"An accidental holds good for the duration of a bar. It applies only to the pitch at which it is written: each additional octave requires a further accidental"
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#2386934 - 02/16/15 09:00 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: zrtf90]
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Originally Posted By zrtf90
Originally Posted By Jytte
Seems that "it comes with practice" is the answer to most of our questions...
I would prefer to say it comes with experience. Practise should be something deliberate. wink

Like dynamobt, I think the recitals are the best thing. There are several resources on the 'net for increasing the efficiency of our practise but the one I remember most begins with "Listen!" (Dr. Brent Hugh).

There's nothing that lifts our performance or ability more than careful listening and nothing that makes us listen more than making a recording for others.



Yes, I am finally understanding this. Because you encouraged me to be in the ABF recital I now see how I can incorporate recording into my regular practice sessions. I'm starting my session today with the Mozart Fantasia I'm working on!
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#2387829 - 02/18/15 08:51 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: D7K]
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Loc: Toronto, Canada
For me it was: Get a teacher!

I now realize just how ridiculous it was to try to learn on my own. smile
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#2388609 - 02/20/15 08:50 AM Re: The best thing I've learned on Piano World.... [Re: earlofmar]
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Originally Posted By earlofmar
Originally Posted By verqueue

I met a lot of wonderful piano friends here and received a lot of encouragment, which helped me with my piano goals. I love being here and I hope I'll not be kicked from this subforum.



that will never happen, we value your opinions too much as well as enjoy being reading about your journey.


+1

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