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Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: frankb] #2373799
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Originally Posted by frankb
pwl, EM Deeka and Rerun...Thanks so much for your responses. I will certainly
give the sites a look...

BUT I think I will gain so much more if I had an actual opportunity to have one on one in person lessons using these approaches(rather than via the internet).

Anyone on the forum have any experience finding a teacher with the inclination to do so?? Do you think it is possible for me to find one?

I am so new to this "I dont know what I dont know" nor do I know what questions to ask of the potential teacher.


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Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: frankb] #2373828
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Hi Frank,

I'd recommend learning 10-20 simple pop songs and carols with just melody and chords. Start with Jingle Bells, Silent Night, and the 'A' section of Hey Jude. Do this for 3 months and you'll have an excellent foundation for going forward, whether from leadsheets or with sheet music, which you can adapt if you don't like the arrangements.

In general with adult beginners, it's best to aim for fluency by starting with LOTS of easy pieces. Once it gets easy, which it will, then you can move into more complex arrangements. Have fun and keep at it smile


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Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: RonDrotos] #2373837
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BUT I think I will gain so much more if I had an actual opportunity to have one on one in person lessons using these approaches(rather than via the internet).

Anyone on the forum have any experience finding a teacher with the inclination to do so?? Do you think it is possible for me to find one?


I found a teacher (for both voice and piano) who specializes in teaching adult beginners. She spent her early life as a jazz singer, and doesn't do much classical stuff (either voice or piano). We're slowly working through Tim Richards' "Improvising Blues Piano".

I asked her about how comfortable she was teaching classical piano:

. . . "I had a really good classical student recently --
. . . I sent him to someone else for better training."

So such teachers _are_ available.

. Charles

PS -- when someone suggests that you learn twenty or so popular pieces, the first question to ask is:

. . . "How should I do that ?"

which brings the discussion back to where you are.


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Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: frankb] #2373852
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Again, I thank all of you for taking the time to respond to my question.

There are a number of really good suggestions and I feel more comfortable now in discussing this with potential teachers.

To Hugh Sung, your website is well done and very informative...learned a lot about pianos, and your unique approach to online courses which I really do like.

At this point I want to see if I can locate a teacher for in person lessons and perhaps supplement with your classes

Thanks again to all of you...

Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: frankb] #2373874
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Originally Posted by frankb
Again, I thank all of you for taking the time to respond to my question.

There are a number of really good suggestions and I feel more comfortable now in discussing this with potential teachers.

To Hugh Sung, your website is well done and very informative...learned a lot about pianos, and your unique approach to online courses which I really do like.

At this point I want to see if I can locate a teacher for in person lessons and perhaps supplement with your classes

Thanks again to all of you...


Thanks for the kind words! The best part about this is that you're taking the initiative to make your dream come true. It's never to late to start learning!

I wish you all the best in your teacher search! And if you decide to try out lessons with me, I would be delighted to work with you smile

Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: frankb] #2373914
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Hugh Sung

thanks for your encouraging words

my wife will be signing up for your classes as soon as our keyboard arrives ..She played organ and clarinet thru high school and feels that the ability to get direct feedback from you is exactly what she needs to get up to speed..she is pretty excited to be getting a "virtual" teacher as accomplished as you

thanks again to you and the other forum members.


Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: frankb] #2374238
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Originally Posted by frankb
Hugh Sung

thanks for your encouraging words

my wife will be signing up for your classes as soon as our keyboard arrives ..She played organ and clarinet thru high school and feels that the ability to get direct feedback from you is exactly what she needs to get up to speed..she is pretty excited to be getting a "virtual" teacher as accomplished as you

thanks again to you and the other forum members.



I look forward to working with your wife and helping her get her piano chops up to speed! Most of all, I hope she has fun discovering the joys of playing the piano!

All the very best,

Hugh

Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: frankb] #2374521
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If you can get lessons, take lessons. I wouldn't touch piano, trumpet, or saxophone or clarinet, or tennis or karate or tree pruning or woodcarving without at least some lessons. I think people work too hard to avoid music lessons when they couldn't imagine teaching themselves, say, golf.

Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: frankb] #2374528
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I'm 66 and a teacher along with Alfreds 1 is working (just started Alfreds 2).

Anyway, do that but after getting started on the basics you can learn easy versions of the music you like as side pieces. An understanding teacher will listen and fine tune as well as move you along with the primary book. As you progress, you can play more satisfying versions of the music you prefer.

It's fun and there's no schedule to meet smile


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Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: frankb] #2374680
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Thanks for the encouraging words..will take your advice...am meeting with a potential teacher this week..

Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: frankb] #2374728
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Good luck with your teacher, I hope that it works out for you. smile


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Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: pwl] #2374920
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Originally Posted by pwl
Oh, I think the answers to this are going to be fascinating. (I suppose "find a teacher who will teach you what you wish to learn" is an obvious response.) Will anybody defend that teacher who painted the rosy picture (sarcasm alert) that he could play simple classical pieces in about a year? Yeah, just what he asked for!


So you think that's rosy? I did play simple classical pieces after less then half a year. So perhaps a bit to sarcastic?

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Originally Posted by pwl
Oh, I think the answers to this are going to be fascinating. (I suppose "find a teacher who will teach you what you wish to learn" is an obvious response.) Will anybody defend that teacher who painted the rosy picture (sarcasm alert) that he could play simple classical pieces in about a year? Yeah, just what he asked for!


So you think that's rosy? I did play simple classical pieces after less then half a year. So perhaps a bit to sarcastic?


Agreed, there are plenty of early grade classical music within easy reach of the average beginner.


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Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: frankb] #2375033
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I started playing Bach (menuet in G) 3 weeks in... some of these pieces were made by the 'old masters' for this specific purpose. Next is Tchaikovsky's 'Album for the Young'. So, no, this is not unreasonable.


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Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: frankb] #2375055
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I was your age two years ago, and I bought Emedia's Piano and Keyboard and made sure that I got at least a 90% on each lesson. Over the two years it took me to complete it, at about 6 months I was playing some Pop, some folk, and easy classical stuff. At two years I understand music, can read it pretty well, and can recommend this software. I bought the intermediate which focuses on Jazz/Classical/little pop.

However I bought a "Fake" book off of amazon with nothing but cords for the bass cliff, and the stuff I learned in the Emedia course allowed me to play Piano Man just by sight reading.

I put in an hour a day (took one day off a week except for vacation) and can say it was $49.95 well spent. When I start the intermediate course I'll probably still do it without an instructor, but I can see where have an instructor and a course such as Emedia would be beneficial.

Good luck on your choice.


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Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: frankb] #2375116
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Thanks for your recommendations..I'm looking forward to the journey

Re: What is best piano teaching method for senior citizen? [Re: WimPiano] #2375214
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No, the sarcasm alert was because he wants to learn to play popular songs and the teacher told him all about how he'd be able to play classical pieces.

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