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Re: Kawai 'Virtual Technician' iPad app now available [Re: Kawai James] #2490717
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Bellicapelli, Android support is certainly something we are considering, but I do not have any concrete news at this time. As for compatibility with older generation instruments such as the CA63, I believe this is rather unlikely, partly because the instrument itself does not allow parameters to be changed externally.

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Bellicapelli, Android support is certainly something we are considering, but I do not have any concrete news at this time. As for compatibility with older generation instruments such as the CA63, I believe this is rather unlikely, partly because the instrument itself does not allow parameters to be changed externally.

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I see. Then i'll fiddle on with the piano's lcd. Thanks for the info.


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Hi all,

does the app support the CS11 as well? Can't find it in the app description, but since the CA97 is supported this shouldn't be such a big deal (?).


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Originally Posted by mfranke
Hi all,

does the app support the CS11 as well? Can't find it in the app description, but since the CA97 is supported this shouldn't be such a big deal (?).


Cheers,
Michael


Yes, it does. You can see in this link that it is supported by the CA67, CA97, CS8 and CS11 at least.

EDIT: In the official app description, CS11 is actually omitted, but I'm sure that is a mistake. The listed supported models are actually: Kawai ES8, CA97/67/17, CN35/CN25, CP1/CP2/CP3. I guess it hasn't been updated accurately since the release of CS8/CS11.

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Re: Kawai 'Virtual Technician' iPad app now available [Re: mfranke] #2601185
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Originally Posted by mfranke
does the app support the CS11 as well? Can't find it in the app description, but since the CA97 is supported this shouldn't be such a big deal (?).


Happy new year!

I'm 99% certain that the CS11/CS8 are supported, especially given that they share largely the same hardware as the CA97/CA67, but will need to double check for you when Kawai Japan reopens for business tomorrow.

The CS11/CS8 are indeed supported - we will update the AppStore description text shortly. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

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Re: Kawai 'Virtual Technician' iPad app now available [Re: Kawai James] #2603744
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
PossumES8SP280, the Virtual Technician app is currently only available for iPad, I'm afraid.


hi James,
Android user here.
Please confirm the Virtual Tech app still works on iPad only, and NOT iPhone, if that's the case.
I'm thinking of getting an older iDevice to use iApps.
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Re: Kawai 'Virtual Technician' iPad app now available [Re: thrucomp] #2603869
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Hello thrucomp, welcome to the forum!

Originally Posted by thrucomp
Android user here.


Nice. wink May I ask which device and OS version you are using?
My 'daily driver' is a Samsung S4 Mini running the latest CyanogenMod (RIP) nightly. It's a few years old, but still performs like a champ and is one of the last truly 'compact' phones.

Originally Posted by thrucomp
Please confirm the Virtual Tech app still works on iPad only, and NOT iPhone, if that's the case.


Yes, the Virtual Technician app is still currently only available for the iPad, however I am hopeful that this may change in the future.

Originally Posted by thrucomp
I'm thinking of getting an older iDevice to use iApps.


A refurbished iPad Air 1st generation can be picked-up at a good price, and still has sufficient performance to run virtual instrument apps. Try to get the largest storage capacity available - mine is only 16GB and that's quickly eaten up by some of the larger apps.

I hope this helps.

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I wish this app would support mp11, on my mp11 the LCD screen started flickering soon after I got it, and today it has gone completely dark giving me no way to control anything. If there were some alternative app for ipad or computer to provide visual display and control of settings it would solve the problem. short of that I guess I will have to look into expensive repair to get the LCD replaced

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Kawai James, can we leave feedback for the app here?

I wrote quite an extensive (believe it or not!) text about the app on my "Kawai CA97 - First Impressions" on my homepage. I think it's a killer app, but there are some problems, and even though I described the negatives at length, I still think it's a very good app (which says something about the good parts).

If you are interested in feedback, please take a look. I will make a very short summarized list here:

- Bluetooth notification every time the app is started, even though I use cable. A fix would be to just delay the notification slightly before warning about bluetooth. Pretty annoying, but not critical.

- Being able to reset a setting back to its default setting, OR just a text telling what the default value is. For example, "Default parameter: 5". Would be VERY helpful.

- Switching between profiles bugs a lot. Every time I scroll through them, it gets stuck and flicks between two profiles. Annoying, but not critical.

- Overwrite a profile or being able to update the current one. Right now, if I load a profile, then just want to switch one parameter and save it, I have to create a new profile with a different name. Makes it extremely unpractical to update saved profiles, but maybe I'm missing something here.

- Sometimes, loading a profile just loads part of it. It's been more than noticeable since I lower the key volume for G4 due to my sensor problem, and sometimes, even though the profile contains the correct parameter, it sometimes fails to load the key volume. (I know that because sometimes when I load the profile, it actually applies, but sometimes not.)

- Switching between instruments. This is the biggest problem with the app, and most likely a bug. I describe it better in my article, with examples, but short story:
When you have a profile selected and switch instrument on the piano, the profile settings remains even though it is not applied. I don't know how it's suppose to work (my guess is that the profile should reset/reload that instrument's settings), but I really don't think it's suppose to show one setting while applying a different one.


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Re: Kawai 'Virtual Technician' iPad app now available [Re: RickardNi] #2607439
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Hello RickardNi,

Thank you for your useful feedback.

I have already forwarded your post to the Virtual Technician application team for consideration. While I cannot guarantee that they will implement all of your suggestions (and eradicate all of the quirks), I'm hopeful that the app will continue to improve.

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Of course I realize you can't promise any improvements, but if my feedback is forwarded to the application team, then it's more than I could have hoped of. Thanks!


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KawaiJames, I have some additional notes to my earlier feedback:

- I was actually confused by my own description regarding the Bluetooth notification, so I would like to clarify that there are two different notifications. One is the app itself gives a notification how to connect the instrument (it disappears by itself after a few seconds, but ideally it would be delayed until an internal timeout to at least try to establish a connection), the other one, which is the annoying one, is the iPad notification that Bluetooth needs to be turned on for the app to work.

This one is actually iOS itself that gives, and I'm not sure how the API works, but it should be possible to get rid of that one. It is a helpful notification for some apps that requires Bluetooth turned on to work, but since it's optional in this case for Virtual Technician, it would be nice to get rid of this one. It's quite annoying.

- The bug I described when switching between instruments is a bug! I mean, it was kind of obvious, but now it's confirmed that the behaviour is unintentional. If I have one instrument selected with customized settings and then choses the next instrument, the settings will still show the values for the previous ones, but closing the app and start it again will cause the instrument to resend all of it's current instrument (and VT) data, and thus, showing the correct values.

In other words, the workaround is to close and re-open the app every time you switch instrument, which shouldn't be needed.

I also want to point out that the MIDI data that is sent works fine in some regards, but not in others. If I enter the VT advanced settings on my piano and change the values, they are reflected instantly in the app. No delay, no incorrect values out of sync, everything works perfectly. But if I switch between the smart modes, the settings are not reflected in the same way for all presets. Some of the presets applies the values correctly, but some of them doesn't change them at all. I hope my description makes sense, because this is 100% a bug, and if needed, it's easy to demonstrate or explain it further.

Since it works perfectly in some cases, it shouldn't be an impossible thing to fix so I hope these things can be fixed in an upcoming version since it's quite annoying that you can't rely on the data shown in the app. It becomes very unclear what settings are applied or what settings you are storing when saving, if you understand.


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Thread bump to draw attention to the updated version, which now supports the latest CN37 and CN27 models.

ES110 support is being worked on for a future update.

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Re: Kawai 'Virtual Technician' iPad app now available [Re: Kawai James] #2627573
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Another quick bump to highlight that CN37 owners should update the firmware of their DP to v1.04 (or later) in order to ensure full functionality with the VT app.

http://www.kawai-global.com/news/cn37-digital-piano-software-update-v1-04-released/

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Any further news for Android support, James?


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Originally Posted by Morodiene
Any further news for Android support, James?


Not yet, I'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Originally Posted by Morodiene
Any further news for Android support, James?


Not yet, I'm afraid.

Cheers,
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Why is that James? We certainly have the tech now in Android that we didn't have 2 years ago. BT has come a long way in android. Why is there a hold out? Is it some sort of internal arrangement with apple? Is it lack of developers? Or is it just that Kawai doesn't consider Android OS a viable alternative for other reasons (non-technical)?

If you belong mostly to the android world, it is a heavy investment to make, and one that you will have difficulties integrating to your already developed ecosystem.

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Working in the industry, I can hazard a guess.

Building an app can be "easy" for a developer who is just aiming to get an app completed, and it can be outsourced easily as well. But that's often the shortest and easiest part of the puzzle, which then includes ongoing (perpetual) resourcing for maintenance, updates, integration into new product roadmaps and new FRs, etc. Google deprecates Android apps regularly because they don't have resources to maintain them, Apple and Microsoft have been known to outsource development of some app updates to interns on an as-available basis (e.g., remote control, minesweeper, etc.), and all of these huge tech companies, who could breathe out an app in their sleep, oftentimes forego creating a mobile app to complement their desktop/webapps due to these issues.

Kawai is a much smaller company, and I imagine the software development team that handles mobile apps is tiny. Plus, I imagine it operates as a cost center, since they're not making money on VT apps for their DPs. Spinning up to support a new platform would be a major cost and an ongoing commitment well past the initial "Steve here has 20% time to port this app to Android within the next few months."


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So we can guess it is basically lack of resources since there is not ROI on that product (sort of)

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Working in the industry, I can hazard a guess.

Building an app can be "easy" for a developer who is just aiming to get an app completed, and it can be outsourced easily as well. But that's often the shortest and easiest part of the puzzle, which then includes ongoing (perpetual) resourcing for maintenance, updates, integration into new product roadmaps and new FRs, etc. Google deprecates Android apps regularly because they don't have resources to maintain them, Apple and Microsoft have been known to outsource development of some app updates to interns on an as-available basis (e.g., remote control, minesweeper, etc.), and all of these huge tech companies, who could breathe out an app in their sleep, oftentimes forego creating a mobile app to complement their desktop/webapps due to these issues.

Kawai is a much smaller company, and I imagine the software development team that handles mobile apps is tiny. Plus, I imagine it operates as a cost center, since they're not making money on VT apps for their DPs. Spinning up to support a new platform would be a major cost and an ongoing commitment well past the initial "Steve here has 20% time to port this app to Android within the next few months."

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Its not really good enough since they said an andriod app was in development about 2 years ago.

A big company like them should have the resources.

I use Bluetooth on my andriod device with an app and it works great. Its a free app written by one person so if they can do surely a big company like kawai can do it!! It makes so much difference.

If they do not bring out andriod apps I will look else where when i come to buy another keyboard. roland has 2 great apps for andriod. But saying that yamaha has none for andriod!!


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Yeah, if they said they were working on an Android version but haven't produced, then they owe an explanation at least. I was under the assumption it was a de Novo question!


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Hello chaps,

I believe I previously stated that Kawai was investigating app development for Android and other platforms. However, I don't believe any confirmation or concrete release dates were given.

Currently, the Virtual Technician app is for iPad only. I would *personally* like to see this change in the future, however please understand that I do not have a great deal of involvement in the app development side of things.

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Hi James!

I also would be interested in the android (maybe Windows too) VT version, that would make such an upgrade on my CA97..

Still enjoying it, and recently exploring the many options that incredibly change the sounds to my taste.. but quite difficult and time consuming compared to other interfaces (like the cool touchscreen on the CA98 or Pianoteq), so I just wish I could have this option too smile

Additionally, as an off topic I use to move from flat every few years and I really find it a hassle to carry my CA97 with me, since it's one piece furniture and cannot be disassembled, it would be cool to think of some handles or cavities on it to be carried i.e. by two persons.. last time we hardly could find any spot to lift it up with hands... wheels option could be an additional cool feature, just a thought.


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Hello David, good to see you here.

Thank you for your suggestions.

Regarding Android/Windows support for the Virtual Technician app, I appreciate that there is quite a strong demand for this to happen. I will pass on your request to the app development team, however I'm afraid I cannot guarantee that they will be able to port the app to other platforms in the near future.

Regarding carrying handles, I cannot be sure, but the last time I lifted a CA98 (or at least, helped to lift it), the back seemed easier to grip than I expected. Producing an instrument with casters (wheels) complicates matters considerable, so is probably unlikely to happen.

Once again, thank you for your feedback.

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Hi!

Are there any plans for the iOS VT app to support the new Kawai models, in particular the CA78, 98 and NV10? I would consider this to be of much higher priority than fully reprogramming the app for Android. It would also be a very simple and effective way to mitigate the issues that have been reported.

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Hello arc7urus,

Originally Posted by arc7urus
Are there any plans for the iOS VT app to support the new Kawai models, in particular the CA78, 98 and NV10?


As I understand it, Kawai's touchscreen instruments (namely the CA98/CA78 and NV10) handle communications a little differently to previous generation models, which makes control apps such as the Virtual Technician partly incompatible. I believe the VT app may work when the instrument is using Sound mode (as the sound engine is the same as the previous generation CA models), however not in Pianist mode. And then there is the question about what happens when adjusting parameters on the instrument's touchscreen - will those changes be communicated back to the VT app, etc.

By all means, customers are free to try the VT app with their CA98/CA78/NV10 instrument, however they should be aware that the app is not officially supported by those models.

Kind regards,
James
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Re: Kawai 'Virtual Technician' iPad app now available [Re: arc7urus] #2744314
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I think the iOS VT app is useful only for those models that doesn't have touchscreen.. I own a CA97 and find it a bit of a hassle changing parameters here and there specially when just experimenting with no specific sound in mind.. but if I had the CA98 I guess I wouldn't be missing the app since the touchscreen would be acting as such.


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Re: Kawai 'Virtual Technician' iPad app now available [Re: Kawai James] #2744319
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Yes, that's a good point.

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Re: Kawai 'Virtual Technician' iPad app now available [Re: Kawai James] #2746655
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Does the Virtual Technician APP support the MP11SE?

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