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I was away for many months, and when I got I home, I discovered that burglars had broken the window next to my grand piano and then one of them walked through the window, STEPPING on the piano, with a shoeprint right there on the top. mad mad

The burglars only took the washer & dryer ($1200 to replace mad mad) , leaving a lot of electronics intact. The piano is also fairly close to the front door, and fortunately there was not a scratch along the path there, nor any vandalism aside from putting some cracks in the front windshield of my car mad mad ($225 to replace, if I decide to - it seems that they tried to start the car, but because I disconnect the battery when I leave, it did not start. smirk )

I have now uprated the protection for my home, and will basically be boarding up my windows (from the inside) when I go away. This is the 2nd time I have been burglarized (first at my current address.) That first time, they took about $10K of stuff, and I got an insurance settlement from that, but had to get an alarm to continue to get coverage. I didn't report this to the insurance company as especially since I go away for so long, I would be required to get that alarm. Since when I go away I don't keep the phone line, getting a home alarm for my present location would cost about $1K per year (at least!), which may or may not keep out burglars in the future; it would almost make sense to replace the appliances once a year rather than get an alarm.

Aside from a difficult attic window to access (which I plan to secure), a burglar would need to bust down a deadbolt in the door, bust the 1/2" hurricane-protection-level window boards, or do something like the "hole in the wall gang" from the movie "Casino". grin

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I don't understand why so many people go around without home security. Actually I do, they don't realize you can get a much better deal if you buy the equipment and use a monitoring company that's usually about $9/mo. The sensors are all wireless and the base unit can connect via wifi, ethernet, or cell/GSM/LTE.

Well, I don't want to hijack this thread and turn it into a conversation about home security gear. So PM me if you want more info - happy to share - and no, i don't sell this stuff smile

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I have an alarm with a sensor in my music room.


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Michael, can you please share what company you use and which kit you bought? I'm in the market for such a system myself.


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We have the Honeywell 5100, but it's been updated. We also bought it from this site:
Honeywell LYNX 5200

All the sensors are wireless (RF). Just stick them on with the 3M double-sided foam tape. And they have a 5-yr lithium-ion battery. So works great for renters too.

Monitoring is $9/mo through Alarm Relay

+$5/mo for TotalConnect (iPhone, smart home, thermostats, lights, etc...)
http://homesecurity.honeywell.com/


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Originally Posted by michaelha
We have the Honeywell 5100, but it's been updated. We also bought it from this site:
Honeywell LYNX 5200

All the sensors are wireless (RF). Just stick them on with the 3M double-sided foam tape. And they have a 5-yr lithium-ion battery. So works great for renters too.

Monitoring is $9/mo through Alarm Relay



+$5/mo for TotalConnect (iPhone, smart home, thermostats, lights, etc...)
http://homesecurity.honeywell.com/



Excellent, Michael. Thanks!


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to anyone that thinks they can trespass
anyones personal space and place,
the consequences will bury you

wolves shall hunt you
and other wild animals shall capture you
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Hey, who needs an alarm system when you have wolves? shocked


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Hey, who needs an alarm system when you have wolves? shocked


I thought you had pussycats, Brian!

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Originally Posted by BrianDX
Hey, who needs an alarm system when you have wolves? shocked



Was just about to go for a swim on this pristine wilderness beach on northern Vancouver Island with my friend.
Buck ran out of the forest and charged in to the ocean running towards us,
4 wolves raced out of the forest on the chase and hunt, one in front.
They didn't catch this buck.



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Swampwiz,

Really sad to hear, I know what its like. Like you, cleaned out twice while living in Hollywood. Glad the piano is intact and you're taking measures. If only we citizens were allowed to rig a shotgun to the doorknob, I would have no problem with that, unless you forgot you did that!

Michealha......Yeah, don't want to highjack either. Our AV guy said under no circumstances, use a wi-fi system. Criminals know how to easily jam the frequencies and all you see is snow. He suggests hard wiring but man, the cost! You can PM me how your company answered that question. We really want to go wi-fi but he scared us off........thanks.


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I have had hard-wired alarm systems in both the US and Canada, and it seems to me that "in this day and age" (as they say), one is asking for trouble by not having a system, particularly if one is absent from home for extended periods of time.

Any company I have been with (Brinks, ADT, and now a local company) will have a nominal charge for the initial installation and, with the purchase of the equipment, subsequent companies will use the hardware without additional installation charges. At under $30.00 per month monitoring, it is worth the peace of mind. Note, also, that a monitored home security system will almost always reduce your home insurance costs, with the result that the monthly fee is thereby considerably reduced.

From what I read above, Wi-Fi systems sound suspect.

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Originally Posted by Carbonblob
Swampwiz,
Michealha......Yeah, don't want to highjack either. Our AV guy said under no circumstances, use a wi-fi system. Criminals know how to easily jam the frequencies and all you see is snow. He suggests hard wiring but man, the cost! You can PM me how your company answered that question. We really want to go wi-fi but he scared us off........thanks.


You mean the wireless (RF) sensors? I didn't know they could be jammed, but not too surprised. We're using wifi to connect to the monitoring station and I know that is far from bullet proof. Most homes have their telephone lines for DSL or coaxial cable running along side the house so a simple snip and we're offline.

My thinking is to just make our house a pain in the butt enough that they'll skip ours and go for something easier. And if all else fails still have property insurance.


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michaelha,

Thanks for the info, I was away and couldn't respond till now. My AV did mention cutting in addition to jamming. There was a fairly recent robbery close to us and the home had at least a dozen hi rez cameras inside and out. they showed the 3 perps casing the house at night and scoping out the back yard the day before. they returned, cut the lines (which did nothing, so they must have a dedicated line), then tore up only where they knew people usually hide their jewelry, then stuffed it into their backpacks (college in our town, so doesn't look weird). Btw, it was kind of fascinating watching how clever they were in their search. So don't hide jewelry in your dresser or closet! Anyway, the resolution was so high, it looked like a TV show. The owners gave it to our NBC station which ran on the tape on the news. All 3 caught in less than 48 hours. Turns out it was a gold melting racket. they steal gold, run to the gold dealer (who also got busted) and melt it asap so there's no trace of stolen property. We really want to get a system and thanks for the link. We are thinking about getting your system and for the same reasons, hoping they'll move on. thanks


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Originally Posted by michaelha
You mean the wireless (RF) sensors? I didn't know they could be jammed, but not too surprised.


*Anything* RF can be jammed. It doesn't even have to be intentional. Some cheap LED light bulbs are very noisy in the 110 - 250 MHz range.



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Originally Posted by michaelha
You mean the wireless (RF) sensors? I didn't know they could be jammed, but not too surprised.


*Anything* RF can be jammed. It doesn't even have to be intentional. Some cheap LED light bulbs are very noisy in the 110 - 250 MHz range.



I found a setting that detects RF Jamming and reports it, enabled it.

But my thinking is, if these guys are cutting wires, jamming radio frequencies, jamming wifi, setting EMP blasts, then they're welcome to take my Apple products.



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