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So who's going out of tune this week?
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Seems this arctic blast coming in is affecting the whole country. I've dropped more than just a couple cents here and there and my tech advised me to #dealwithit until we get some wetter weather next week. How about everyone else?

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Re: So who's going out of tune this week?
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Originally Posted by Markarian
Seems this arctic blast coming in is affecting the whole country. I've dropped more than just a couple cents here and there and my tech advised me to #dealwithit until we get some wetter weather next week. How about everyone else?


We're pretty much in a similar - if not the same - climate system. While humidity has dropped here about 10% indoors over the last week, I have to have a tuning done before the end of the month as I have a recital performance on 30 November and 2 December. We are supposed to get more normal weather moving in next week several days before my tuner comes, so my tuning might remain stable for the recital.

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Humidity is acceptable, but the piano gets cold at night -- what passes for insulation in this house is ridiculous, and the heat is still cycling on and off. I am going to have to schedule any visitors for the exact second that the tuner leaves.

I have been thinking of your weather woes. #dealwiithit is one I didn't know, but it strikes a chord -- I need to apply it to pretty much my enitire life.

Best of luck out there! Where my sisters are, they have eight inches of snow.

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I'm thinking of an automatic tuning system

Attached to the geared tuners Cretin forgot about somewhere between his war and theirs

Take an electronic tuner, hook it to a computer feedback system-

turn on the "evaluation mode"

strike a note

push tune

and the computer and motor do the rest

note: please Mrs. Worthington, DON'T use a metal file at the termination point of the strings.

and 76 would do, here.

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I am BOINK
you piano computer....

the bass capstan roller on E below middle C termination point is experiencing excessive drag...

dispatch Major Poile please...

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Fear not broken strings.
Boink will simulate the tone with digital sampling

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It seems that my piano went out of tune due to the weather as well. I don't want to have it tuned yet because I had it in Sept and this cold weather will last for a couple of months. Is it OK to wait until spring? Would delaying tuning cause any permanent damage?


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Greetings,
The concert pianos on the stage have been dropping about two cents a day for the last week. They are tuned every performance, which means every day. Friday, there was an 8 cent drop, in one day. Aha, Vanderbilt heating has arrived. There is no way to avoid this change, but there are measures that lessen its range and effect.

Pianos in homes deliver the longest tunings if you have them done after the major seasonal change occurs. Here in this part of the country, usually, by November, I begin tuning my home customers. The ones in retirement homes can be done in September, since their owners get to the thermostat a lot earlier than most. Recording studios tune for every session, so weather matters little.

I have an 90 year old customer who is always slightly cold in an 80 degree appt. Her Knabe is in splinters, totally cooked by a decade of thermo-geriatric abuse. CA in the pin block was the only way to keep it tunable, but the soundboard is firewood. She can't hear well enough to detect the buzzes, and still plays the same 8 songs she learned as a teenager. All is good in that Fahrenheit heck, but others might do well to put up with the wildness in you piano until the heat has dried the house out some.

Be aware that good techs usually have a pre-committed clientele and get busy at this time, you might have to wait if you make the appointment after you notice your piano has sagged. The best tunings, and customers, are the result of thinking ahead.
Regards,

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The normal RH in the music building is 50-55% Cold spells drop the RH to 15%-30%, which if they last more than one night, de tune the pianos, taking them flat in the middle. The pianos recover somewhat when the temps warm up to normal. I ran though 12 pianos last week, raising the middle octaves 4 cents for the Steinway grands, and about 8 cents for the Boston uprights. The bass and high treble were still good. The total change down in winter is usually 10-15 cents in the middle for the Bostons, and 8 cents for the Steinway's. I reverse all of that in spring when the rains hit.

The performance hall is unaffected, due to the recent installation of a humidifier that keeps the RH at 65% year round. (yea, it's high, but at least it's stable)....

I am trying to get a humidifier installed in the music building (where most of the pianos live).



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Originally Posted by Markarian
Seems this arctic blast coming in is affecting the whole country. I've dropped more than just a couple cents here and there and my tech advised me to #dealwithit until we get some wetter weather next week. How about everyone else?


I don't believe that arctic weather is affecting the whole country although I understand that it is quite chilly in the Nord/Pas de Calais at the moment. Or perhaps you mean a different country?

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Cold dry winds here, humidity to 27% and temperature to 68 F indoors. We'll have hot/cold swings for a few more weeks, then it'll be tuning time again. We just have to put up with it during the transitions.



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Seems this arctic blast coming in is affecting the whole country.


It was brutal here over the weekend. I couldn't change to shorts until after 9am.


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It was brutal here over the weekend. I couldn't change to shorts until after 9am.


Ha ha ha, don't rub it in! We've been in the single digits for several overnights, and they're predicting our first below zero (farenheit) on Thursday night. That would be the earliest it's gotten that low since I've lived here. Gotta clean out the humidifier for the season and fire it up, the RH is at 40% and headed down...


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Dampp-Chaser called for water last night. I hope it doesn't run out again while I'm out of state for Thanksgiving weekend smirk


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Dampp-Chaser called for water last night. I hope it doesn't run out again while I'm out of state for Thanksgiving weekend smirk
When my tech installed the D-C over 10 years ago, we discussed the idea that I could be away for periods of time, and with that in mind, he installed a second reservoir to supplement the first one. More time between refills.

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Dampp-Chaser called for water last night. I hope it doesn't run out again while I'm out of state for Thanksgiving weekend smirk


I would be surprised if it could use a whole tank over a weekend. I have been watching my own here at the house and it takes a week of heavy use to empty the tank. I will say this, you can fill the tank up more than the amount in a watering can if you use your finger over the edge as you fill so you know when to stop.
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We've been in the single digits for several overnights, and they're predicting our first below zero (farenheit) on Thursday night. That would be the earliest it's gotten that low since I've lived here. ...


Despite a few hot days, we've had overall a cooler than average summer and fall. Where's Al Gore when we need him? ;-)



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Dampp-Chaser called for water last night. I hope it doesn't run out again while I'm out of state for Thanksgiving weekend smirk


I would be surprised if it could use a whole tank over a weekend. I have been watching my own here at the house and it takes a week of heavy use to empty the tank. I will say this, you can fill the tank up more than the amount in a watering can if you use your finger over the edge as you fill so you know when to stop.
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Excellent to know. I doubt it would go through a tank in a weekend, but I'm saying between last night and Dec 1, that's two weeks, the latter half of which I will be out of town. So if it needs water between 11/27 and 12/1, no one will be around to fill it up.


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I doubt it would go through a tank in a weekend, but I'm saying between last night and Dec 1, that's two weeks, the latter half of which I will be out of town. So if it needs water between 11/27 and 12/1, no one will be around to fill it up.


Top it up on 11/26 and don't worry about, at all. It will be fully operational the whole time you are gone.


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Not sure if I am out of tune, but if I am I will not be after tomorrow.

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