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#2340902 10/24/14 08:55 AM
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This might be old news to others, but I just discovered it and I'm very impressed. Steingraeber offers black and white dampers as an option on grands, to assist those of us with occasional "new music" inclinations:

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I have no doubt that any manufacturer could do this on a special order, and I'm sure that any piano tech would be happy to do it on an existing piano on request, but still ... hats off to Steingraeber.

Back in the day, I used to use little sticky dots on the dampers, which made a certain piano tech at a certain music school very agitated. And I won't repeat what he said when I discussed my proposed S&S D screw and bolt installation procedure for Cage's "Sonatas and Interludes," but it involved a dead body.

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Well,

I too have fairly strong opinions about most prepared piano pieces. Much of what is done simply shortens the life of the piano and/or makes more work for a technician to readjust it after it is used in this fashion.

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Hmmm -- that might be a nice navigational aid to the tech who has to work on the dampers, not that it's all that difficult to pick out the right one when they're all black. Subtle little numbers would be even better.



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Sauter paints lines on the soundboard so you can know where to put the preparing items.


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I found a picture, you can see the lines painted on:

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Very interesting. Are the damper and soundboard markings standard on Sauters, or are they a special order option? I presume the lines on the soundboard mark nodal points, correct?

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Originally Posted by iLaw
Very interesting. Are the damper and soundboard markings standard on Sauters, or are they a special order option? I presume the lines on the soundboard mark nodal points, correct?

I believe they are standard. I've never actually prepared a piano myself, so I don't know what the lines mark...... smirk


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