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#2337890 - 10/16/14 01:46 AM In search of an acoustic  
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Hello,

in my search of an acoustic piano, I contacted a local piano technician to ask him if he also sold 2nd hand piano's. He had one, so i went. It was a piano he got from a client (who bought a new one?) He guessed it was from the 70's-80's, the brand was "Etude". Or is it "Etyde"?

I got a 1 hour technical overview of how a piano is built and works, he took of the wooden covers so we could see the inside of the piano. it all looked brand new - as he told me. hammer without grooves, little rubbers and ribbons that were brand new, wooden keys, all pins were still very tight... Nothing looked wear-off.

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He told me also to better buy from a tech than let a tech evaluate a piano found on a site (costs more:inspection+tuning).

The piano would cost me 850€, delivery included.
The only negative thing i could find is:
- The brand, of which i didn't hear of until now.
- Not really negative, but when i played the instrument, the key touch was much more heavier than my "Yamaha Arius YDP-161", but also much heavier than my teachers Bluthner grand. at first it felt like pressing a key with a spring underneath. When pressing a note without the pedal, you could hear it resonate further when releasing the key. That's probably the thing that makes an acoustic "alive"? On my YDP161, when releasing a key, you don't hear anything resonating.
- The color/cabinet/style is not directly my choice, but hey, you can't have all the luck...

There was also a 3rd silence pedal on the piano, although I don't know if that's really usable if children are sleeping?

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In my opinion, this would be an upgrade to my digital YDP-161. and a fairly wise investment as it would remain his value after 5-10 years. What are your opinions?

Many Thanks, Johan

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#2337986 - 10/16/14 10:16 AM Re: In search of an acoustic [Re: johan d]  
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Looks like a tidy piano - it might be a good buy. Basically you have to use your judgement as to whether you trust this tech. Will he provide a written warranty to fix any problems for a couple of years? You could get an independent tech in - and many will advise this, but for a piano that is only 850 inkling delivery, I'm not sure you need to worry that much. If you decide to forgo another tech inspecting it, the main thing is that this tech will give you a written warranty. If you like the sound and feel of it, I'd say go for it. It's not that much money.

I wouldn't worry about "investments" and values 10 years from now. Just buy a piano you like. At 850 quid you aren't going too break the bank, nor suffer huge depreciation.

#2338791 - 10/18/14 12:01 PM Re: In search of an acoustic [Re: johan d]  
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Etyde it is and made in the USSR.

#2338792 - 10/18/14 12:05 PM Re: In search of an acoustic [Re: johan d]  
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At 850 Euros it would have to be a real steaming pile to not be a good deal, IMHO. If you like the sound of it and you have a tech saying it's good, then go for it.


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#2338793 - 10/18/14 12:10 PM Re: In search of an acoustic [Re: johan d]  
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One statement you made, "When pressing a note without the pedal, you could hear it resonate further when releasing the key." makes me wonder if this is just the halo of an upright or if the dampers are not dampening properly.

Service issues related to low build quality could easily overwhelm the cost of this piano if it has them. Think money pit. I'd be cautious considering how every Soviet-era upright I've ever seen was "a real steaming pile."

Good luck in your search.


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#2338822 - 10/18/14 01:48 PM Re: In search of an acoustic [Re: johan d]  
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@johan_d, you can do better.. Have you checked out the links I posted earlier in reply to your previous topic?
Those are pianos of reputable brands without. They might need a regulation and tuning, some repairs but a better start then this one..


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#2338945 - 10/19/14 01:45 AM Re: In search of an acoustic [Re: johan d]  
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I've seen several of these over the years. They are appalling. Cheap materials, careless construction, really nasty tone. €850 is about €849.50 too much for this.

#2338948 - 10/19/14 01:52 AM Re: In search of an acoustic [Re: Jean Claude]  
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Originally Posted by Jean Claude


I've seen several of these over the years. They are appalling. Cheap materials, careless construction, really nasty tone. €850 is about €849.50 too much for this.


But other than that, everything OK?


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#2338950 - 10/19/14 02:00 AM Re: In search of an acoustic [Re: johan d]  
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Other than that everything is utterly ghastly, although I may have found a possible use for one.

Handel.

Fraternal greetings comrade, by the way.

#2339352 - 10/20/14 01:54 AM Re: In search of an acoustic [Re: johan d]  
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Well i don't think the piano is that worse, but the deal went off because i let my son play on it before buying and he rather played our digital more than this one. As i don't want to take away his enthusiasm (and he has), I search some more to find a descent piano that we bot love?


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