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Steinway Hamburg D in USA. How much for new?
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How much is a Steinway Hamburg D new in the USA? I am looking for actual out the door prices.

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Where are you located? You would need to buy from your local dealer, as you would have the opportunity to go to the factory in Hamburg for selection. The list price is sort of a moving target because although they publish prices, they have to actually calculate it based on the current euro so you need to contact a dealer and get a quote. The dealer will call Steinway and get the price. Have you actually played any very recent NY pianos? I was just in NY last week for a selection because one of my customers bought one I went with him to select. The NY pianos are very very good right now and I see huge changes afoot there. The progress on combining the processes and protocols of both factories has been moving to the point of very little difference being readily apparent. Also the reason that I ask where you are located, I maintain a lot of Hamburgs and I think that in a lot of areas of the country the NY pianos will fare better in the maintenance. The actions are different but the NY pianos operate a lot better in high humidity. The "new" NY hammer that they have been using on the D's is remarkably like the hammers in the Hamburgs so the tonal target has been narrowed between the two pianos. I've installed 9 sets of the new D hammers since they have made the change and they voice out just beautifully.


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Notwithstanding Sally's post and the variability of prices due to fluctuating currencies, for comparison's sake, the recent list price of the New York Steinway D is $148,700.00 with a suggested street price of $144,000.00. The Hamburg Steinway D suggested list and street price is $175,700.00.

Follow Sally's advice, however, and contact a Steinway dealer if you want to know the exact current price.

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Contact Bob Snyder, who is here around the forums. Message him on his username RSnyder for more information. I suggest you to check out this thread: http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2189016/ One of our members actually went to the Hamburg factory to buy it. I suggest you do that instead of buying it here because of the more guarantee that you will get an "untouched, out of the box" instrument. Pianos from dealers are great, but they get played by people who come in and out, and you never know if the dealer held recitals, small competitions, lessons, or concerts on a piano that big. This pretty much never happens in the factory, where only select people go to choose their pianos. These are just my 2 cents. Considering messaging this person also: Hamburg-D

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Buying a Hamburg Steinway from a US dealer does not mean that you don't get to go to Hamburg to select, it just means that the US dealer nearest you will facilitate the sale, arrange for shipping and delivery and provide service. The concept of an "out of the box, untouched instrument" is a very overrated idea. Any piano, but especially a concert quality performance piano, needs to be unboxed at the dealer and prepped for delivery.


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There are a number of very well prepped Hamburg 274's at Steinway Hall in London, England. (I spent 4 wonderful hours there last week)

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When I was choosing my concert grand last year both London and Hamburg offered a good selection of D's. All superbly prepared. If you decide to actually go ahead you will need to notify Steinway over here in advance and ascertain what selection will be available to you when you visit. There should be a very good selection between both Hamburg and London. In the end I preferred one of the concert stock D's which London prepared for me to try down in the basement. I did actually choose a Steingraeber E-272 over everything (again, superb facilities for selection). I had owned a Hamburg B for many years.

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I was just told $234,000 (2012 price) - $250,000 (approx. for now) for Hamburg D?

A NY D is going for $148,000 here.

What do you guys think here.


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Originally Posted by SF10
I was just told $234,000 (2012 price) - $250,000 (approx. for now) for Hamburg D?
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What do you guys think here.


Really?! That's more than a Fazioli F308, which I thought was considerably more expensive than a Steinway D, New York or Hamburg.

Where did that quote come from? Does that include first-class air fare to and from Hamburg, 4-star hotel and meals? Chauffeur to and from the factory/show room?

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The information you're seeking is listed here:

http://www.pianobuyer.com/fall14/249.html


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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
The information you're seeking is listed here:

http://www.pianobuyer.com/fall14/249.html


That was my source, too, and even if Fine's price is not quite in line with current exchange rates, shipping charges, etc., it's still a very far cry from the $250,000.00 quoted to SF-10!

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I was quoted from a MA dealer.

They wanted me to look at the NY D - but I've played a lot of them over the last decade and only the C & A NY are prepped to a players desire.

Anyone know what the correct pricing should be?

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Any piano can be prepped to a player's desire, at least within the limits of the piano. All it takes is a good technician and time.


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SF10,

I'd heed BDB's recommendation. You should consider a factory selection, where you get to pick from several, then hire (or make a condition of sale) a tech to spend a full day (or a couple half days) tweaking the piano to your satisfaction after delivery. Most Steinway dealers have access to a tech that does their concert/C&A work, or check with the best performance venues/recording studios around you and see who they use. Also, C&A pianos tend to get retired after 10-15 years and may provide great service in home use thereafter; these pianos will be less expensive as well.

It has been my (limited) experience that other brands will offer considerable discounts on their concert grand models, should you find something else you love.



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So, $250,000 for a Hamburg D in the USA. Is this way off or correct?

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If you're talking about a typical ebony/polished ebony finish, I seriously doubt it. Sounds like the dealer may be trying to steer you in a different direction...


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Originally Posted by SF10
So, $250,000 for a Hamburg D in the USA. Is this way off or correct?


As I wrote before, Larry Fine and his research really couldn't be $75,000.00 of the mark, do you think? I would challenge the dealer who gave you that quote and ask where it came from with Fine's "evidence" to the contrary.

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Exactly. You could buy 2 new NY D's for that kind of money.


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3 weeks ago the cost was about $183,750.00 CAD at Steinway Hall, London UK


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