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#2334756 10/06/14 07:28 PM
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Vocal chords doing partials?

I must admit I had to bring down the volume.... I have good studio speakers.

Be curious to see what the stretch is, and the temperament... wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC9Qh709gas#t=105

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Amazing!

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Tuvans come around here from time to time.


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On the other hand, Peter Plonsky used to come into a friend's shop, and break out into something like this which he called "vocal trance technique." I never heard it, but my friend said it was amazing! I cannot tell what is voice and whether there is anything else in this recording.


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Unreal! I can see why you thought it might be fake!

Certainly anything could be overdubbed on the original
recording, but if it's real, it's crazy she
can sing like that!


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If he does't mind me saying so, Mark Cerisano demonstrated with his own vocal chords something like this in one of his threads a few weeks ago.


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I have heard several singers who could do this though she is superb at it.

Gerard Schwartz brought a couple of male Tuvan throat singers into Benaroya hall once while I was preparing a piano. It was a treat to hear them.

I sometime try to sing that way and so far very little luck at getting the effect steady and string.

I don't think the overtones she is producing would qualify as partials. I think they would have to be harmonics since the voice operates much like a wind instrument.


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Can you tell me please what is a Tuvan?


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Someone from Tuva.


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Thanks BDB. Now that you told me I've googled Tuva and now I know that the Tuvan people are famous for Tuvan throat singing.

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Actually, throat singing is done through most of central Asia, and into the northern reaches of North America.


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Yeah, that's real. For a good example of a male voice doing it, more slowly and explaining it, try Miroslav Grosser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGbFB91eM34&list=PLD13FFA5853EFA965

Good singers modify their vowels subtly throughout their range anyway, but few have the precision control she does.

As I understand it, the voice is a wind instrument and produces a series of upper partials. The vowel sound is a way to shape the resonances of the vocal tract to amplify different partials selectively. You can sing oooh or ah or AY on the pitch C and it all sounds like a C, but also sounds different because of the vowel.


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Originally Posted by TimR
Yeah, that's real. For a good example of a male voice doing it, more slowly and explaining it, try Miroslav Grosser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGbFB91eM34&list=PLD13FFA5853EFA965

Good singers modify their vowels subtly throughout their range anyway, but few have the precision control she does.

As I understand it, the voice is a wind instrument and produces a series of upper partials. The vowel sound is a way to shape the resonances of the vocal tract to amplify different partials selectively. You can sing oooh or ah or AY on the pitch C and it all sounds like a C, but also sounds different because of the vowel.


WOW, I JUST DID IT MYSELF!!

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It's crazy, but as the video mentions, the overtones/partials
are already there!

You just have adjust the shape of your mouth opening, and
you can hear the overtones changing, even though the fundamental
stays the same!

Crazy! Of course, my partials aren't as loud as these people,
because they have trained themselves specifically to utilize
these tones.

But pretty cool!

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