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Originally Posted by scorpio
I am curious too. I need to decide how I am going to support my MP11.

If you take off the movable legs on the K&M 18950, and let it sit on the floor (I would add caps to the bottoms of the legs), what is the height of the stand?


64.2 Centimetres with removable legs off, and 67 Centimetres with removable legs and rubber feet on.

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I have the Quiklok WS-550 for my MP11 and it doesn't budge even a millimeter. Really good stands in my opinion.
I would then assume the WS-650 is of equal or better quality.

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Like Scorpio, I'm looking for the best stand for a Kawai MP11.

And like HaraldC, I'm thinking about K&M 18950 or Quick Lok WS-650.

Abby Pianoman, I also liked the K&M 18810, but it's the used by Kawai in some MP11 oficial videos and since I could see it's very, very wobbly, I don't like it. So, attending to video, I think this support it's not the best.

The On-Stage WS8540 I think it's similar to Quick Lok WS-650... But If Colorodney thinks it's very wobbly, don't know what to think about that.




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Originally Posted by ChoPraTs
Abby Pianoman, I also liked the K&M 18810, but it's the used by Kawai in some MP11 oficial videos and since I could see it's very, very wobbly, I don't like it. So, attending to video, I think this support it's not the best.


Please note that the K&M 18810 (aka 'Spider' 'Omega') is a very different design to that of the K&M 18950. I don't know why the stand in the Kawai Europe MP11 videos is so wobbly (it's perhaps accentuated because the camera is often zoomed into the instrument?), however as you can see in the Kawai Japan MP11 videos, the K&M 18950 is very stable.

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I ended up with the On Stage WS8550. It is not wobbly at all. In fact I am very pleased with it. I have the keyboard at the appropriate height and it is stable.

I plan to make a custom stand for it - mostly for appearance. But I am not in a rush since this On Stage stand is working great for me.


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Abby Pianoman, I also liked the K&M 18810, but it's the used by Kawai in some MP11 oficial videos and since I could see it's very, very wobbly, I don't like it. So, attending to video, I think this support it's not the best.


Please note that the K&M 18810 (aka 'Spider') is a very different design to that of the K&M 18950. I don't know why the stand in the Kawai Europe MP11 videos is so wobbly (it's perhaps accentuated because the camera is often zoomed into the instrument?), however as you can see in the Kawai Japan MP11 videos, the K&M 18950 is very stable.

Cheers,
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Yes, I know. The K&M 18810 (I think is called Omega) is completely diferent to 18950. Sure the 18950 is more stable.

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I can vouch for the K&M 18950's solidness. It is SOLID.
No wobbles here. I'm a bit mystified as to why K&M decided to make the minimum height so high.

Probably it was intended for other uses as well, not only keyboards.

I have to add 5 more Centimetres to my Piano bench to obtain a reasonable sitting and playing position. Using the second tier Keyboard is a bit uncomfortable. And this is without the extensions.

But the beauty of Ibiza is that there are Metal and Aluminium workshops all over the place, that will chop and repaint the stand to my desired measurements for as little as 10 Euros.

Monday will be Operation Stand Chop day.

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K&M 18950.
Ok. I had a guy chop off 5 Centimetres ( just under 2 inches ), drill new holes for the extension tubes, and apply some anti corrosion paint, all for 10 Euros.

Now the MP11 sits at 71.2 Cms ( approximately 28 inches) from floor to the to top of the keys, with extension tubes and rubber feet attached. Any self respecting Metal Workshop can do this for you in under 20 minutes.

I now have a very comfortable playing position at this height.

I hope this is helpful to those who are considering this stand.

IT IS ONE SOLID BEAST.

Takes a bit longer to set up than my previous X stand, but now my worries of my Piano crashing down when I pound it, are gone.

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10 Euros? That's a bargain!

Did you snap some pics of the wip or finished stand?

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Nope. Didn't have time James.
Had to set up and perform almost straight away. Just had time for a change of clothes.
I'll snap the pictures on Saturday and post them.

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Here is a video where I think we can see puting a Kawai MP11 on a Quick Lok WS-650 (minute 5:00):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-QFRYRTYY


And here there is a picture:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrmacmusic/14517623224/

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This is what I get when I try to upload pictures.

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PS: I obviously do have a data connection with my ADSL wifi at home.

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Abby, the image uploader provided by this forum seems to be more trouble than it's worth.

I use TinyPic.com to upload images, then copy and paste the 'for forums' link (which includes the <IMG> tags) directly into my post - always does the job.

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