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Re: Ravenscroft by VI Labs… First Look and Sound
HisKidd #2317192 08/19/14 06:15 AM
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vilabs answer my question about layers...


The Ravenscroft has 12 velocity layers on which we apply our advenced filtering to make the velocity splits unnoticeable.

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Re: Ravenscroft by VI Labs… First Look and Sound
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Originally Posted by Superbaffone
vilabs answer my question about layers...


The Ravenscroft has 12 velocity layers on which we apply our advenced filtering to make the velocity splits unnoticeable.

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We finally got that info... wink


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Re: Ravenscroft by VI Labs… Poor Customer Service
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Originally Posted by dire tonic

I wish VILabs would have another go at a Steinway, I'm sure they'd have a winner.

I'd rather they do a Yamaha CFX. I'm not counting on Garritan to ever finish theirs.


What does Garritan have to finish with the Garritan Abbey Road Studios CFX Concert Grand Virtual Piano?

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Originally Posted by dire tonic

I wish VILabs would have another go at a Steinway, I'm sure they'd have a winner.

I'd rather they do a Yamaha CFX. I'm not counting on Garritan to ever finish theirs.


What does Garritan have to finish with the Garritan Abbey Road Studios CFX Concert Grand Virtual Piano?

As noted on their own web page they don't have partial pedaling or (more importantly) re-pedaling.


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Re: Ravenscroft by VI Labs… Poor Customer Service
dire tonic #2319901 08/26/14 01:29 AM
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I wish VILabs would have another go at a Steinway, I'm sure they'd have a winner.


I really wish they have a go at a Bösendorfer or a Stuart & Sons next.


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[quote=PikaPianist]I really wish they have a go at a Bösendorfer or a Stuart & Sons next. [/quote]

- now you mention it, a well-sampled Bosendorfer would be very desirable, I've no doubt. I'm not familiar with the Stuart & Sons but as it's probably never been sampled before maybe that too could be a winner on rarity value alone?

How about it, VILabs?

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I find it is sampled incredibly good, however, I prefer the "Steinway tone". While technically perfect, this is just not for me. So, I'm selling my copy of the Ravenscroft 275 on ebay right now.

It's available for ~130$/99€ (ebay.com/itm/161412436028).

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Re: Ravenscroft by VI Labs… First Look and Sound
HisKidd #2334747 10/06/14 06:41 PM
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Today I bought the Ravenscroft , beautiful!!!


https://soundcloud.com/superbaffone/prova-2-ravenscroft

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HisKidd #2335671 10/09/14 06:45 PM
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I am shopping around for a virtual piano library and would love to hear the opinions of those who have owned and tried many of the leading offerings.

I play a lot of jazz improv and lounge, but would also be looking for a piano that I can sit well in a pop or alt rock track. If I need more than one piano, that is fine.

Realism in both sound and playability are my most important selection criteria. Darkness or brightness are issues I can fix with EQ, but of course, something being perfect off the shelf is an advantage!

Cheers

Has anyone here compared this with Production Grand, Garritan CFX Concert Grand or Vienna Imperial? These are three I've had recommended to me so far.

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Re: Ravenscroft by VI Labs… First Look and Sound
HisKidd #2335847 10/10/14 09:51 AM
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I prefer Pianoteq overall. Superb playability and sound. You can also make edits on a note per note basis (Pro version). For example, notes that might sound lower/louder can be easily corrected by raising/lowering the volume for those notes. I've also made the lower end deeper by using the spectrum profile (Pro version).

Ivory American Concert D has a very realistic lower end; however, note per note edits are not possible. This is a problem for me; since there are always notes that will be a bit off (volume, timbre, depth, etc.). If you try to edit a note or a group of notes, all the notes are affected; for example, if you alter a parameter specifically for the upper register, you will notice the improvement; however, now the lower end has been affected too, and it sounds crappy. It's a catch 22.

Ravenscroft is crisp and lots of fun for jazz; however, it suffers from the same limitations mentioned above. To be specific, C16 (2 octaves below middle C) is completely muffled and weak; you can barely hear this note in relation to neighboring notes. At least one other forum member has mentioned this. Try to correct that note and you mess up everything else (global edits.)

Re: Ravenscroft by VI Labs… First Look and Sound
HisKidd #2340592 10/23/14 01:00 PM
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I love this vst

Body and Soul

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Re: Ravenscroft by VI Labs… First Look and Sound
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FADED GLORY ?
What price on Black Friday ?
Any updates/upgrades in the 6 months since this was the latest declared perfection ?

What was it surpassed by ?
{out of touch with all this stuff, too busy PLAYING, I guess}

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Yes busy with my 4et and rav smile

Re: Ravenscroft by VI Labs… First Look and Sound
Superbaffone #2350288 11/14/14 08:28 PM
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Very nice SuperB.....are you using a stock preset or did you customize one? I was hoping to see a place where users shared their best presets. I've also been wondering about when we'll see an update to the 275. Their support said one was in the works, but no word on when it might show.

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This is beautiful!

Can you tell us a little about both the Ravenscroft presets and your recording setup/process? Thank you for the music!

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Originally Posted by R_B
FADED GLORY?
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What was it surpassed by ?
{out of touch with all this stuff, too busy PLAYING, I guess}


Pretty much all of the top pianos that PRECEDED it. It wasn't great.





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HisKidd #2354564 11/25/14 11:45 AM
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from vilabs:

We will soon (probably by the end of the week) release a new version that uses a lossless compression of the ufs file which will bring the size of he library down to around 5Gb.



p.s. currently the size of the library is 35gb.

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35GB --> 5GB?

That's pretty good lossless compression!


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35GB --> 5GB?

That's pretty good lossless compression!


Now if only Ivory would do the same...my hd would love the free space! wink


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IF you believe in "loss less" compression it is VERY GOOD - or the source data is very sparse.

As to whether or not it is a good idea to use sample libraries in a compressed state....
That kinda depends on a tradeoff between disk access times, decompression speeds, caching and a whole buncha other stuff.
32 Gig of RAM ? SSD ? hybrid disk drive ? Windoze ? i7 ? on and on.

I would wager that it is GOOD on some systems and BAD on others - so the decision should NOT be made by the sample vendor.

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