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Many of Brahms's exercises are great preparation for playing Bach.


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I think I'll follow Tureck's book to the letter, and see where it takes me. I can always unlearn and re-learn if I feel the need. I get the feeling that she knows her stuff, and anything I learn will not be detrimental to my progress.

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Originally Posted by Michael Sayers


. . . so maybe there is a stylistic connection as well with Bach's music and baroque fingerings?



And that is what should be learned from this discussion. I studied piano, organ and harpsichord at university and quickly gained an appreciation for the phrasing that occurs naturally as a result of using baroque fingering techniques.

Once you understand and use baroque phrasing, any fingering and pedalling that respects that phrasing is fine.


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Originally Posted by noobpianist90
I think I'll follow Tureck's book to the letter, and see where it takes me. I can always unlearn and re-learn if I feel the need. I get the feeling that she knows her stuff, and anything I learn will not be detrimental to my progress.

Let us know how it goes, it sounds interesting


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Originally Posted by Roland The Beagle
If you choose to play Bach without the pedal, different fingerings and techniques will be required for maintaining legato.


Speaking of legato - one of the most useful things I have learned by playing Bach without pedal is that the modern style of pianistic legato playing isn't really required (or even appropriate, IMO) most of the time. I was so deep in the rut of thinking that a musical line was usually created by using legato that it came as something of a revelation to realize it wasn't the only way - you don't have to connect all of the dots all of the time, after all.

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Originally Posted by prout

And that is what should be learned from this discussion. I studied piano, organ and harpsichord at university and quickly gained an appreciation for the phrasing that occurs naturally as a result of using baroque fingering techniques.

Once you understand and use baroque phrasing, any fingering and pedalling that respects that phrasing is fine.


I didn't really get to study Baroque music tradition in that much detail, but I was taught Baroque fingering last year and I find whenever there's a passage that I find awkward, if I switch to the Baroque fingering and phrasing it actually ends up sounding better too. I'm sold.

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