Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.7 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
Find a Professional
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Advertise on Piano World

(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Who's Online Now
161 registered members (Amedeus, aphexdisklavier, 36251, akc42, anotherscott, Abdol, Animisha, ajames, apianostudent, 8ude, 40 invisible), 2,046 guests, and 5 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 #2315451
08/14/14 11:40 AM
08/14/14 11:40 AM
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 37
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Banzai_Ed Offline OP
Full Member
Banzai_Ed  Offline OP
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 37
Vancouver, BC, Canada
I'm planning to buy the RD-800, but don't know which monitor is better for it. Recomendations will be very appreciated.


Roland HP508 | RD-800 | CM-110 | UA-55 | RH-A30 | RH-A7
PianoTeq 5 | Kontakt Player
Yamaha HS7/HS8S
Piano & Music Gifts & Accessories (570)
Piano accessories and music gift items
Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: Banzai_Ed] #2315477
08/14/14 12:45 PM
08/14/14 12:45 PM
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 71
Worcester, UK
B
bgiles Offline
Full Member
bgiles  Offline
Full Member
B

Joined: May 2014
Posts: 71
Worcester, UK


Roland RD-800, RD-700, SRX-02, SRX-04, SRX-07, SRX-11, EV-5
Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: Banzai_Ed] #2315484
08/14/14 12:56 PM
08/14/14 12:56 PM
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,715
Portugal
T
toddy Offline
3000 Post Club Member
toddy  Offline
3000 Post Club Member
T

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,715
Portugal
Also depends on whether Banzai Ed is going to be using for practice at home, playing for others at home - small concerts say, studio recording or giving concerts & gigging. Or a combination of those.

Small PA for gigging, reference monitors for recording, monitors or hi-fi speakers for general use. You could also use best quality multi-media active speakers for genral use, too.


Roland HP 302 / Samson Graphite 49 / Akai EWI

Reaper / Native Instruments K9 ult / ESQL MOR2 Symph Orchestra & Choirs / Lucato & Parravicini , trumpets & saxes / Garritan CFX lite / Production Voices C7 & Steinway D compact

Focusrite Saffire 24 / W7, i7 4770, 16GB / MXL V67g / Yamaha HS7s / HD598
Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: Banzai_Ed] #2315498
08/14/14 01:43 PM
08/14/14 01:43 PM
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 516
California
M
Michael Martinez Offline
500 Post Club Member
Michael Martinez  Offline
500 Post Club Member
M

Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 516
California
AT home I use the Behringer MS16.
For small gigs I use KC-350.
For larger gigs I plug into house PA or other band member's PA, and use the KC-350 as a monitor.


Music Educator, Computer Engineer, avid reader of literature, enjoyer of the outdoors
http://www.michael--martinez.com/music/
Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: Banzai_Ed] #2315508
08/14/14 02:13 PM
08/14/14 02:13 PM
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 37
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Banzai_Ed Offline OP
Full Member
Banzai_Ed  Offline OP
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 37
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Thanks all of you guys for the good input, I'm not a musician but a hobbyist, my wife as well. We play pianos at home for fun, sometimes we invite friend for a party and play music on our very old electronic keyboard, now we have a HP508. So a small concert would be suitable for my settings. We have a Logitech 5.1ch speaker system connected to my computer, but none of us likes it, in terms of sound quality. Maybe our ears are a bit pickey, we do need a better one for small concert.

Thanks:-)


Roland HP508 | RD-800 | CM-110 | UA-55 | RH-A30 | RH-A7
PianoTeq 5 | Kontakt Player
Yamaha HS7/HS8S
Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: Banzai_Ed] #2315522
08/14/14 02:51 PM
08/14/14 02:51 PM
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,715
Portugal
T
toddy Offline
3000 Post Club Member
toddy  Offline
3000 Post Club Member
T

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,715
Portugal
Well, I'm very happy with Yamaha HS7 - a neat simple active reference speaker. Those with a subwoofer would give you full range sound. They are relatively good value in Europe, it seems to me. Thomann stock them for around 400 a pair, bundled with pole stands.

However, these are maybe not spectacular sounding - they are more for accuracy and showing up 'errors' when recording & mixing music. KRK Rockets are similar, but perhaps better for electronic music. Behringer Truth monitors are also very well regarded and cost less than the KRK or Yamaha HS.


Last edited by toddy; 08/14/14 02:53 PM.

Roland HP 302 / Samson Graphite 49 / Akai EWI

Reaper / Native Instruments K9 ult / ESQL MOR2 Symph Orchestra & Choirs / Lucato & Parravicini , trumpets & saxes / Garritan CFX lite / Production Voices C7 & Steinway D compact

Focusrite Saffire 24 / W7, i7 4770, 16GB / MXL V67g / Yamaha HS7s / HD598
Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: Banzai_Ed] #2315561
08/14/14 05:00 PM
08/14/14 05:00 PM
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 37
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Banzai_Ed Offline OP
Full Member
Banzai_Ed  Offline OP
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 37
Vancouver, BC, Canada
I need to pay 600USD for a pair of YAMAHA HS7 in US, plus a sub-woofer, a mixer.Which sub-woofer do you guys suggest, and a cheaper mixer?


Roland HP508 | RD-800 | CM-110 | UA-55 | RH-A30 | RH-A7
PianoTeq 5 | Kontakt Player
Yamaha HS7/HS8S
Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: Banzai_Ed] #2315610
08/14/14 08:01 PM
08/14/14 08:01 PM
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,715
Portugal
T
toddy Offline
3000 Post Club Member
toddy  Offline
3000 Post Club Member
T

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,715
Portugal
You should perhaps look at a range of speakers that would suit your particular case. I can vouch for the Yamahas especially if you're looking for accuracy - the sound from them is very close to my phones which are also an unflattering 'reference' type. However, there are others that may sound better or be more economical where you are (the market changes from country to country, continent to continent, even if all the products are coming from Japan, Indonesia or China in the first place.

Do you need a mixer? Active monitors of the sort we're talking about here can be fed from the keyboard if you wish, and if there is no special need to bring in other instruments or voices on the same system, you can go direct.


Roland HP 302 / Samson Graphite 49 / Akai EWI

Reaper / Native Instruments K9 ult / ESQL MOR2 Symph Orchestra & Choirs / Lucato & Parravicini , trumpets & saxes / Garritan CFX lite / Production Voices C7 & Steinway D compact

Focusrite Saffire 24 / W7, i7 4770, 16GB / MXL V67g / Yamaha HS7s / HD598
Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: Banzai_Ed] #2315892
08/15/14 11:11 AM
08/15/14 11:11 AM
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,442
Boston, Massachusetts
M
Marko in Boston Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Marko in Boston  Offline
1000 Post Club Member
M

Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,442
Boston, Massachusetts
Based on what I have briefly read, you might want to look at the Yamaha StagePass 400i which I use often with my RD800 and Kawai ES7: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/StagePas400i/

I find it extremely easy to use. Great sound for small (few people) to medium/large (100+ people) venues. Mixer on board if needed. Plus other instruments and vocals can plug into it if needed. It's a very good PA with many features for under $700.


KAWAI ES7 | ROLAND RD-800 | YAMAHA CP4 | YAMAHA STAGEPAS 400i | PRESONUS R65 & T10 | SHURE SRH1540 | SENNHEISER HD650 | K&M OMEGA
Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: Banzai_Ed] #2315903
08/15/14 11:47 AM
08/15/14 11:47 AM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,867
Richmond, BC, Canada
C
Charles Cohen Offline
4000 Post Club Member
Charles Cohen  Offline
4000 Post Club Member
C

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,867
Richmond, BC, Canada
Originally Posted by Banzai_Ed
Thanks all of you guys for the good input, I'm not a musician but a hobbyist, my wife as well. We play pianos at home for fun, sometimes we invite friend for a party and play music on our very old electronic keyboard, now we have a HP508. So a small concert would be suitable for my settings. We have a Logitech 5.1ch speaker system connected to my computer, but none of us likes it, in terms of sound quality. Maybe our ears are a bit pickey, we do need a better one for small concert.

Thanks:-)


I've tried the Yamaha Stagepas 300 (predecessor to the 400, recommended above). Either of those will do fine in a "small concert" (less than 100 people) setting.

I use an Electrovoice ZXA1 powered PA speaker (just one -- it's what I could afford, and fit into my room). With an 8" woofer, horn-loaded tweeter, and several hundred watts of power, it sounds very nice.

The specs on the HP508:

Quote
Rated Power Output 60 W x 2
15 W x 2
Volume Level (SPL) 112 dB
* This value was measured according to the method that is based on Roland's technical standard.
Speakers Cabinet Speakers: 16 cm (6-5/16 inches) x 2 (with Speaker Box)
Near-field Speakers: 5 cm (2 inches) x 2
Spatial Speakers: (12 cm (4-3/4 inches) x 8 cm (3-3/16 inches)) x 2


That's pretty good for built-in sound. If you want to improve it (IMHO), you'll need:

. . . larger woofers (probably 8")

. . . more power (100 watts, or more, per channel).

Don't expect major enhancement from small, inexpensive "studio monitor" loudspeakers. Yamaha HS8 (HS8M?), KRK Rokit 8, or one of the PA systems mentioned, _will_ make a difference.

. Charles

PS -- edit -- I was confused -- you were asking about the RD-800, not the HP508. The list of suggestions is the same, for the same reasons.

Last edited by Charles Cohen; 08/15/14 11:49 AM.

. Charles
---------------------------
PX-350 / microKorg XL+ / Pianoteq / Lounge Lizard / Korg Wavedrum / EV ZXA1 speaker
Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: toddy] #2315904
08/15/14 11:47 AM
08/15/14 11:47 AM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,089
uk south
D
dire tonic Offline
3000 Post Club Member
dire tonic  Offline
3000 Post Club Member
D

Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,089
uk south
Originally Posted by toddy
Well, I'm very happy with Yamaha HS7 - However, these are maybe not spectacular sounding - they are more for accuracy and showing up 'errors' when recording & mixing music.

I may be practicing in a larger room in the near future where my current monitors won't have enough power so I've been thinking about active/passive+amp and other possibilities.

The question of accuracy springs immediately to mind. Maybe there are good reasons to think otherwise but for unaccompanied playing (i.e. not needing to 'cut through' a band etc) and in mind of the lofty ambitions of those working their nuts off to give us 'authentic' sounding sample libraries, wouldn't accuracy be a vital prerequisite?

Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: Banzai_Ed] #2315910
08/15/14 11:57 AM
08/15/14 11:57 AM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,867
Richmond, BC, Canada
C
Charles Cohen Offline
4000 Post Club Member
Charles Cohen  Offline
4000 Post Club Member
C

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,867
Richmond, BC, Canada
Originally Posted by Banzai_Ed
I need to pay 600USD for a pair of YAMAHA HS7 in US, plus a sub-woofer, a mixer.Which sub-woofer do you guys suggest, and a cheaper mixer?


The inexpensive mixer I use is a Behringer Xenyx 802. It should serve most "piano hobbyists".

If you get woofers of 7" or 8", you probably won't need a sub-woofer. Pianos don't have much power at the _fundamental_ frequency in the low bass (down to 27 Hz). As somebody said in the Pianoteq forum recently, you need either:

. . . 5" woofer plus sub-woofer, or

. . . 8" woofer.

. Charles

PS -- if you play lots of organ voices, and you want to shake people's tooth-fillings, then a sub-woofer comes into its own.


. Charles
---------------------------
PX-350 / microKorg XL+ / Pianoteq / Lounge Lizard / Korg Wavedrum / EV ZXA1 speaker
Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: Banzai_Ed] #2315954
08/15/14 02:36 PM
08/15/14 02:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 75
P
phunqe Offline
Full Member
phunqe  Offline
Full Member
P

Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 75
I have Yamaha HS8 and I'm extremely satisfied. You don't need a subwoofer with these, unless you want to tear a wall down or have a large area you need to fill with bass.

Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: Banzai_Ed] #2315963
08/15/14 03:00 PM
08/15/14 03:00 PM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 69
London, UK
E
Emiliano Offline
Full Member
Emiliano  Offline
Full Member
E

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 69
London, UK
would the Yamaha Stagepas be a good sub for studio monitors like, let's say the KRK Rockit or Presonus Eeris, or you guys think stage monitors have a more refined and detailed sound?

Re: Recomendation needed to buy a good monitor for RD-800 [Re: Emiliano] #2315968
08/15/14 03:09 PM
08/15/14 03:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,442
Boston, Massachusetts
M
Marko in Boston Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Marko in Boston  Offline
1000 Post Club Member
M

Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,442
Boston, Massachusetts
Originally Posted by Emiliano
would the Yamaha Stagepas be a good sub for studio monitors like, let's say the KRK Rockit or Presonus Eeris, or you guys think stage monitors have a more refined and detailed sound?


I use both for different uses. Simply put, my studio monitors (Presonus Eris5 & T10) are for home and used just for my listening as studio monitors are detailed and very directional. I find monitors excellent for practice as they are not forgiving and point out my sloppiness. When just right they sound is amazing. The StagePas400i is meant for multiple listeners and the sound is wide and dynamic which is ideal for entertaining.

If I had to choose just one it would be the StagePas400i just for its flexibility alone. It would be fine for home - just a bit overkill perhaps for my small space.

Last edited by Marko in Boston; 08/15/14 04:17 PM.

KAWAI ES7 | ROLAND RD-800 | YAMAHA CP4 | YAMAHA STAGEPAS 400i | PRESONUS R65 & T10 | SHURE SRH1540 | SENNHEISER HD650 | K&M OMEGA

Moderated by  Piano World 

Shop Our Online Store!
Shop Our Store Online
Shop PianoSupplies.com

Did you know Piano World has an online store, and that it's loaded with goodies pianists and music lovers want?
Check it out and place your order.

Special Purchase!
Keyboard and Roses Piano Bench Cushion Keyboard & Roses 14"x30" piano bench cushions Regularly sold for $79 to $100, now only $39. (while supplies last)

(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq Bechstein
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Clementi Sonatina Op 36 No 2 Metronome settings
by oneilt130. 06/18/19 03:42 PM
Looking For Any Books by Peter Feuchtwang
by Brian Sweeney. 06/18/19 02:54 PM
Finally that Fazioli recording of mine...
by OscoBosco. 06/18/19 12:02 PM
Cracked Frames
by michaelopolis. 06/18/19 11:59 AM
What's Hot!!
PIANO TEACHERS Please read this!
-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
Forum Statistics
Forums41
Topics192,588
Posts2,839,315
Members93,636
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2019 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1