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Re: The DPBSD Project! [Re: compianist1] #2305010 07/21/14 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by compianist1
it's weird. I tried the pianoteq again today with the F20. The ppp on the pianoteq is better and more beautiful(on the F20, I can only get p or pp ) but the f and ff on the F20 absolutely trashes pianoteq. On pianoteq, it overall feels like you have to work a lot harder to get louder dynamics, something the F20 excels at (i.e. it's easy and natural to get and control loud dynamics). . . .



Pianoteq lets you put in your own velocity mapping, that sets the relationship between the keyboard's MIDI-velocity output, and Pianoteq's internal "loudness" number.

If you want Pianoteq to respond "ff" to your touch, rather than "f", just change the curve!

That feature is in _all_ versions of Pianoteq, including "Stage". And it's not difficult to use.

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Re: The DPBSD Project! [Re: dewster] #2305770 07/23/14 05:48 AM
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Hi, I´m new to the Forums in writing, because I´ve been reading them for a while...

2 months ago I bought a copy of Ivory II American Concert D and I like it very much.
I´ve generated the audiofiles with the current MIDI file (v2.0 if I remember well) using the Cantabile interface Ivory II uses as a standalone application.

Where and how do I upload the files??? (I have generated MP3 and other lossless audiofiles using last demo of Adobe Audition)

BEST REGARDS FROM SPAIN!!!

Re: The DPBSD Project! [Re: dewster] #2305818 07/23/14 08:17 AM
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I think you have to send a private message to Dewster...


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Re: The DPBSD Project! [Re: dewster] #2307805 07/27/14 01:10 PM
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Ran across this the other day, I had no idea ARM processors had reached this point:

http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G138745696275

A single board 1.7GHz quad core computer for $65 - retail!

I forget - could someone please explain to me again why DPs are required to suck so hard and cost so much with this kind of thing on the open market? Who is holding back my fully sampled Casio for $500?

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Don't forget about cheap plastic keys with optical sensor and a very, very far pivot point :p


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Re: The DPBSD Project! [Re: dewster] #2307915 07/27/14 06:55 PM
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Very cool little board!
If Pianoteq could run on ARM this would be a perfect system for pairing (or evening mounting inside) a VPC1 or other controller.

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Re: The DPBSD Project! [Re: Kawai James] #2308082 07/28/14 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Very cool little board!
If Pianoteq could run on ARM this would be a perfect system for pairing (or evening mounting inside) a VPC1 or other controller.

Yes, hook it up to a small screen and a wireless keyboard / mouse and you'd be ready to go. I know there are Linux builds of Pianoteq, but I don't believe any target the ARM unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by dewster
I know there are Linux builds of Pianoteq, but I don't believe any target the ARM unfortunately.


Yes, it's x86 only.


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Re: The DPBSD Project! [Re: dewster] #2308110 07/28/14 10:20 AM
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Excuse me, but do I see a small, fanless, inconsequential looking CPU capable of 1.7GHZ x 4, plus 2G RAM, all for 65 dollars? (about £48)?

This - even with Moore's law and so on - is pretty amazing.

If this 'reduced instruction set' technology is so good, why aren't we all using it? Perhaps we are.


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Re: The DPBSD Project! [Re: toddy] #2308114 07/28/14 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by toddy
If this 'reduced instruction set' technology is so good, why aren't we all using it? Perhaps we are.

Here is a wiki on the Exynos processor. There are even more powerful versions of it in various products (Chromebook, Galaxy, etc.) so, yes, we are all already using it (in some sense).

If you want 4 cores @ 2GHz + 4 "small" cores + USB3 Hardkernel offers this for $179:

http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G140448267127

The extremely cumbersome and inefficient Intel architecture should never have been allowed to become as dominant as it has. In a more perfect world IBM would have picked anything but Intel for the initial PCs. (And anything but DOS. That was a match made in heaven - NOT!) I get the feeling the IBM guys were just tossing stuff together in the belief that the PC wouldn't go anywhere.

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I get the feeling the IBM guys were just tossing stuff together in the belief that the PC wouldn't go anywhere.

Man, this could be worked up into a fine stage act: Dewster tells it as it is, just for one night. Have you seen the fees the likes of Clinton and Blair get for those types of engagements? Plus the best vintage port and suchlike. But yours would be much more entertaining and informative.



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Re: The DPBSD Project! [Re: dewster] #2309164 07/31/14 12:29 AM
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Here's a better one - $300, Intel, with a Windows 8 license. Drool!

http://www.engadget.com/2014/07/29/intel-sharks-cove-dev-board/

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Originally Posted by sullivang
Here's a better one - $300, Intel, with a Windows 8 license. Drool!

$300 with Win8 license, $350 without Win8 license (I keed).

The terrible twins (Intel & MS) have been an enormously costly (time & money) and pointless (other than making a few guys crazy rich) diversion in world computing. They are perhaps on their way out, but I wish they would go away faster.

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Originally Posted by dewster
The terrible twins (Intel & MS) have been an enormously costly (time & money) and pointless (other than making a few guys crazy rich) diversion in world computing. They are perhaps on their way out, but I wish they would go away faster.


I won't be touching another PC with MS (i.e., Microsoft) programs on it as I had nothing but a deluge of multiple blue screen errors and other issues. I am a "Mac" user now and haven't looked back.


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Originally Posted by pv88
I won't be touching another PC with MS (i.e., Microsoft) programs on it as I had nothing but a deluge of multiple blue screen errors and other issues. I am a "Mac" user now and haven't looked back.

Oops, I should have included Apple (and Adobe) in my rant. Operating systems and other key software need to be open and free.

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Open? Free? Just use Linux.

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DPBSD MP3s (With No Reviews)

Below are the DPBSD samples I've acquired over the last couple of years but tragically never got around to reviewing. Given my current schedule I'm not sure if / when I might start reviewing again, but I didn't want all the effort these kind folks put into this project to go for naught.

Sincere thanks to everyone who has contributed these samples in good faith, I'm very sorry to be dropping the ball like this but I only have so much volunteer time and lately that well has pretty much run dry (and then some).

Certainly if / when a slab / console DP comes along that is fully sampled and not looped I'll review it, but (no disrespect to the sample donors) I've completely lost interest in reviewing loopers.

Donors quoted below, please PM me or respond in this thread if your want your comments changed / removed. I'll be updating the first post to point to this post and give credit where it is due with the honor roll.

And, just to be clear, the "Notes" sections below are the words of the donors, not me.


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== ACOUSTIC ==
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Acoustic Samples Kawai EX Pro K4
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/2kb4xeydg34y7h8/dpbsd_v2.0_AcousticSamples_kawai_ex_pro_k4.mp3
Recorded by: "mromagnani":
Notes: "Recorded with Logic X / Kontakt 5.1 at 24 bit WAV then converted to MP3"
Review: TBA
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== ALESIS ==
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Alesis Fusion Holy Grail
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/6xcvya8thh626r6/dpbsd_v2.0_alesis_fusion_holy_grail.mp3
Recorded by: "render":
Review: TBA
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== APPLE ==
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Apple DLS Piano
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/abjex1fk2nq77z9/dpbsd_v2.0_apple_dls.mp3
Recorded by: "Soren Jorvang":
Review: TBA
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Casio PX-5S
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/gqe17unowchk1bw/dpbsd_v2.0_Casio_PX5S.mp3
Recorded by: "TheodorN":
Notes: "I had the PX-5S set to stage setting 0-0, which is Concert grand piano, pretty basic settings, though. I'm pretty sure it's not EQ'd and reverb is set to Hall2 (no OFF setting exists, it seems, for reverb.)
Finally, sorry for the metronome clicking at the beginning. I could easily just cut it out in the program I converted the WAV file to MP3, ffmpeg. The MP3 file is 16 bit, not 32 bits as you ask for. I believe the original WAV is 16 bit also, not sure if the piano can record at 32 bits."
Review: TBA
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Casio PX-130
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/s7rbz1vc4uwlsxr/dpbsd_casio_px310.mp3
Recorded by: "anotherscott":
Notes: "I find this much nicer to play than the newer PX-330 and PX-3. There are some ways their samples may be more authentic, but this just plays better to my fingers and ears.
p.s. -- I believe this to be the same piano sound as in the new CDP-120"
Review: TBA
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Casio AP450
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/0mo4nwq65stcuo3/dpbsd_v2.0_casio_ap450-3.mp3
Recorded by: "Damien_Salvador":
Notes: "if you want some more infos on the AP450, what I can say after some weeks of use :
- key weight : definitively heavier than the old yamah CLP 130(230? I can't remember), I can feel the wear in my fingers after playing for some time, but I was rusty smile
- "grainy touch" of the keys : a change from smooth keys, but neither a plus nor a minus in my opinion, they don't feel slipery
- no detectable sound artifact when playing fast part with pedal
- nothing to say about sound : it is less "filling" than a regular piano "the feeling of vibrating generated by the instrument", but I was not expecting it ..."
Review: TBA
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Casio PX-500L
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/88l4mt3mc57p8po/dpbsd_casio_px-500l.mp3
Recorded by: "anotherscott":
Notes: "This PX-500L is not nearly as nice as the PX-310, though there are some similarities. I had this side by side with a CDP-100 and am pretty certain the 500L and the CDP-100 have the same piano sound. I also suspect it it the sound of the PX-100, but I've never actually played one of those."
Review: TBA
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Casio PX-500L
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/a3jqwcv13rgd7vl/dpbsd_v2.0_casio_px500l.mp3
Recorded by: "Soren Jorvang":
Review: TBA
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Casio PX850
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/omdq15dombapk3t/DPBSD_v20_Casio_PX850.mp3
Recorded by: "duinsel":
Notes: "Procedure followed:
midi playing from PC to piano over USB midi link
Piano recording sound directly to WAV file.
Wav file converted to MP3 192 kBit using iTunes (VBR/CBR unknown)."
Review: TBA
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Cinesamples Piano In Blue
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/oo6uvr5462q1v0p/dpbsd_v2.0_Cinesamples_piano_in_blue.mp3
Recorded by: "mromagnani":
Notes: "Recorded with Logic X / Kontakt 5.1 at 24 bit WAV then converted to MP3"
Review: TBA
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Galaxy II German Baby Grand
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/pf7udip8oagcbi6/dpbsd_v2.0_Galaxy_II_german_baby_grand.mp3
Recorded by: "mromagnani":
Notes: "Recorded with Logic X / Kontakt 5.1 at 24 bit WAV then converted to MP3"
Review: TBA
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Imperfect Piano Braunschweig
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/98o...ct_piano_Braunschweig_Piano_08_Layer.mp3
Recorded by: "mromagnani":
Notes: "Recorded with Logic X / Kontakt 5.1 at 24 bit WAV then converted to MP3"
Review: TBA
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Ivory II American Concert Grand
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/fllm0inen9w97ee/dpbsd_v2.0_ivory_II_american_concert_grand.mp3
Recorded by: "Pedro_Ruiz":
Notes: "MP3 generated with the v2.0 MIDI file MIDI played through the Cantabile software Ivory II uses as a standalone app Sound processed on a MOTU MicroBook II at 48Kh and recorded with tha latest demo of Adobe Audition"
Review: TBA
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Ivory American D
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/p26lq6m57b04xa2/dp_bsd_v2.0_IvoryAmericanD.mp3
Recorded by: "Erard":
Review: TBA
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Ivory II American D
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/c3l6ztmqtcbuelc/dp_bsd_v2.0_IvoryII_AmericanD_120bpm.mp3
Recorded by: "Aeons_Holle":
Review: TBA
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Ivory II American D
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/bb2bifytg7eiqct/dpbsd_v2.0_ivory_II_american_d.mp3
Recorded by: "Wess. Chr. K":
Notes: "No EQ, No FX, all velocity curves are set to "linear"."
Review: TBA
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Kawai CA95
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/l4a3ag5mpx4255l/dp_bsd_v2.0_Kawai_CA95_120bpm.mp3
Recorded by: "Aeons_Holle":
Review: TBA
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Kawai CA65
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/2w1z9l4tg591g94/dpbsdv2_kawai_ca65.MP3
Recorded by: "gozoogle":
Review: TBA
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Kawai ES7
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/r8zk1ypjmxcrzk4/dpbsd_v2.0_kawai_es7_v1.13.mp3
Recored by "JFP".
Review: TBA
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Korg M3
mp3s:
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/4h8..._grand_4-way_3_ex4_original_m3_piano.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/6z899ulvg2kr7o3/dpbsd_korg_m3_expanded.mp3
Recorded by: "anotherscott":
Notes: "Here's the main piano voice from the M3 Expanded, "M3 Stereo Grand 4-way 1 ex3"
I sent you the piano from the current version of the Korg M3, the "Expanded" model. It has a better piano than the original M3 did. But as "better" is always a matter of taste, and people come to rely on certain sounds, some users who upgraded from the original M3 to the Expanded version were disappointed that the original piano sound had disappeared. So then Korg made the original piano sound available in an Expansion pack that could be downloaded into the M3 Expanded. Attached is the "Stereo Grand 4-Way 3" downloadable piano for the M3 Expanded, which is the same as the original main piano patch "Stereo Grand 4-Way" on the original ("unexpanded") M3. I'm not 100% positive, but I believe it is also identical to the main piano patch of the Korg M50, which I believe had the same sound set as the original ("unexpanded") M3."
Review: TBA
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Native Instruments The Giant
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/atj74ul6i149qjy/dp_bsd_v2.0_Native_Instruments_The_Giant_120bpm.mp3
Recorded by: "Aeons_Holle":
Review: TBA
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Nord Grand Imperial Bosendorfer
mp3s:
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/s90vvus92clhg4k/dpbsd_nord_grand_imperial_bdorf_sml_on_electro_3.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/w1duh6r7vpnuq5j/dpbsd_nord_grand_imperial_bdorf_xl_on_stage_2-76.mp3
Recorded by: "anotherscott":
Notes: "This is the Small version of Nord's Grand Imperial Bosendorfer piano played through an Electro 3. This is the most minimal version of the Bosendorfer, with no string resonance of any sort. There are two larger versions which work on the Electro 3, which add sustain-pedal based string resonance, over either part of the keyboard, or the entire keyboard; otherwise, they are identical to this version. This was done on the regular Electro 3, not the new HP, which would have added an optional "long release" function.
This is the Extra Large version of Nord's Grand Imperial Bosendorfer piano played through a Stage 2. This is the most complete version of the Bosendorfer, with both kinds of string resonance (pedal-down and key-down) over the entire keyboard, and more samples for less stretching (possibly separate for all 88 keys? I'm not sure, and I didn't listen carefully myself). This was done on a 76-key Stage 2 when the model first came out, and there was a bug (since fixed), whereby over MIDI, it would only play the same 76 keys that were in the range of the keyboard, so this is only a 76 note sample instead of an 88 note sample. Nord has also mentioned that this version on a Stage 2 has "dynamic crescendo" -- I'm not sure what that means, but someone in a forum said they think it means that, if you hit the same note repeatedly and harder with the pedal down, you'll get the kind of extra harmonic content that you get when doing that on a real piano.
The funny thing to me is that this is much further from the "small" sample than I would have expected. In fact, although I only played them very briefly, I like the overall sound of the "small" better, as this one was more "dark." It could be the fact that they are essentially using a different sample set (more keys sampled on the XL), or it could be that the Stage 2 is not sonically identical to the Electro 3 when playing the same samples, or it could have been related to the fact that the Stage 2 has had numerous MIDI glitches that have gradually been addressed in subsequent updates, and perhaps it wasn't interpreting the MIDI data correctly... i.e. maybe the velocity mapping was off, such that at a given MIDI Velocity input, the Stage 2 was not responding the same way an E3 did, perhaps it was responding as if the key had been hit more softly, or something along those lines. But that's all just guesswork. All I can tell you for sure is that these files demonstrate what these keyboards sounded like when I ran the DPBSD file through them! I no longer have access to the Stage 2 to try running it again after their software updates, or to try Small version to see if that version sounds the same on the Stage 2 as it does on the E3, both of which would be interesting tests.
Oh... I would have had the "Long Release" button enabled on the Stage 2 when running this. It is a nice feature. simulating the fact that, when a damper falls onto a string on release, you don't get an instantaneous full muting, and it does make it sound more natural to play."
Review: TBA
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Nord Stage2 A01 1 Factory Bosendorfer XL
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/ycc...dStage2_A01_1_Factory_Bosendorfer_XL.mp3
Recorded by: "Maxpiano":
Notes: "The HW configuration is NS2 -> Behringer 1002 mixer -> Roland UA1G audio interface
The audio was recorded and converted using Audacity, I tried to set recording level to obtain a peak as close as possible to -1 dB (as per your instructions)
I am also a member of Nord User Forum and a lot of debate goes on there too about the Nord Piano Library samples, their pros and cons etc.
My opinion is that they are good enough for the Nord Stage, seeing it as a combo instrument were Acoustic Pianos are just one of the components, but not good enough for Nord Piano (where they should be the core and have to compete with like instruments, i.e. Digital Pianos)
All samples from Nord are nice but share a strange "mediosity" feeling, meaning they have a strange sound, too full in middle frequencies.
While this characteristic allows those sounds to cut very well thru the mix in a band situation, it is quite annoying when playing piano solo and can only be partially mitigated using the on board Equalizer. I have also noticed that the output changes a lot depending on the audio output system used (headphones, studio monitors, PA and loudspeakers for live)
The Imperial Bosendorfer is my favorite as to me it is the one with the more balanced sound among the Nord Piano Library Grand Pianos. Grand Lady D is the worse one with respect to having the mid freq. too present and Bright Grand is ok for pop/rock, but too thin, particularly in the middle/lower part of the keyboard
The limited dynamic range is another problem as it limits the player expressiveness; I also observed that when playing "pianissimo" only the volume is reduced but you can't hear the timbral change you would expect from a real piano. Maybe a problem of not having enough layers?
That's the reason why I use NS pianos when playing in a R&B, Soul, Pop band but I am not satisfied by them if I have to play Jazz (in trio or solo) or in general for playing solo at home: in that situation I am thinking to go for a VSTi such as Ivory II or Galaxy Vintage D."
Review: TBA
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== ROLAND ==
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Roland FP-80
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/wha1o12z69h07cf/dpbsd_v2.0_roland_fp-80_concert.mp3
Recored by "cmin".
Notes: "All recordings were done as stated in the guide: Flat, no reverb, etc... then 192kbit MP3.
I imported your MIDI file to Ableton Live and recorded the files directly from the piano to a USB stick in WAV on the piano itself. Absolutely no processing was done and the conversion only on digital level.
As with the other Rolands in the bank, strangely the pedal noise could not be recorded using MIDI. So at the end of each recording I depressed the sustain pedal just so you could hear what it would be like."
Review: TBA
---------------------------
Roland HP-7
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/dvsv04fcoxrvwa4/dpbsd_v2.0_roland_hp-7.mp3
Recorded by: "Soren Jorvang":
Review: TBA
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Roland V-Piano
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/4inmmd87iqrrrli/dpbsd_roland_vpiano.mp3
Recorded by: "anotherscott":
Notes: "I'm not so impressed with it. Everything is relative... my expectations are different on a VPiano than a Microstation... but bottom line is that, while it may be perfectly pleasant, I really don't think it sounds as much like a real piano as numerous other far less expensive DPs. I know it's much more tweakable, and you can create your own hybrid pianos unlike anything every actually manufactured, and there's no stretching and no looping, and all that is very cool. But simply, if I heard a recording of it, I would not be fooled into thinking I was listening to a real piano... there are other models that I think come closer to that, despite their technical limitations vis-a-vis the VPiano.
I actually think Roland's older "Superior Grand" is better sounding than that default VPiano sound."
Review: TBA
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== SALAMANDER ==
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Salamander Piano v3
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/fpj72t72nnltfpl/dpbsd_v2.0_salamander_v3.mp3
Recorded by: "supertorpe":
Notes: "dpbsd_v2.0.mid with the Salamander v3 (24bit 48khz).
The render was made with sforzando at -1dB respecting the samplerate of 48khz.
Some notes from the author of the samples:
Quote:
Yamaha C5 Recorded @ 48khz24bit
16 Velocity layers Sampled in minor thirds from the lowest A.
Hammer noise releases chromatically sampled in onle one layer.
String resonance releases in minor thirds in three layers.
Two AKG c414 disposed in an AB position ~12cm above the strings"
Review: TBA
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== SAMPLETEKK ==
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Sampletekk Black
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/uhra2eq0cadf6ud/dpbsd_v2.0_sampletekk_black_1.2.mp3
Recorded by: "mromagnani":
Notes: "Recorded with Logic X / Kontakt 5.1 at 24 bit WAV then converted to MP3"
Review: TBA
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Sampletekk The Big One
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/z8nn5tajuyk9t5c/dpbsd_v2.0_Sampletekk_the_big_one.mp3
Recorded by: "mromagnani":
Notes: "Recorded with Logic X / Kontakt 5.1 at 24 bit WAV then converted to MP3"
Review: TBA
---------------------------


============
== SONART ==
============

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Sonart Colour Pianos
mp3s:
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/1evmx9zlqckvy5x/dpbsd_v2.0_Sonart_colour_pianos_stainway_D_20.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/2a1y31wl9cd48sj/dpbsd_v2.0_Sonart_colour_pianos_yamaha_C7.mp3
Recorded by: "mromagnani":
Notes: "Recorded with Logic X / Kontakt 5.1 at 24 bit WAV then converted to MP3"
Review: TBA
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== STEINBERG ==
===============

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Steinberg The Grand 3 Bosendorfer
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/4mj91cfy2tzy25j/dpbsd_v2.0_steinberg_the_grand_3_bosendorfer.mp3
Recorded by: "Bane"
Review: TBA
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== TRUE KEYS ==
===============

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True Keys
mp3s:
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/8cronmzeeyctk93/dp_bsd_v2.0_True_Keys_American_Grand_120bpm.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/haz0l565oa8lrrb/dp_bsd_v2.0_True_Keys_German_Grand_120bpm.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/bxxhyjmx4x1zdc8/dp_bsd_v2.0_True_Keys_Italian_Grand_120bpm.mp3
Recorded by: "Aeons_Holle":
Notes: "Since all the pianos feature three different microphone perspectives that also can be mixed in any desired combination, I decided to use the provided mix position that combines all perspectives in one sample set."
Review: TBA
---------------------------
True Keys
mp3s:
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/ut63xhtpkvweu3d/DPBSD-TrueKeys-AmericanPlayer-124.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/yncnfov1cgk3kbs/DPBSD-TrueKeys-ItalianPlayer-110.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/n4ohfcnib0m1sd0/DPBSD-TrueKeys-GermanPlayer-120.mp3
Recorded by: "imyself":
Review: TBA
---------------------------


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== YAMAHA ==
============

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Yamaha CP1
mp3s:
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/h3t2tnf84tfry6k/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_cp1_cf.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/5hd8bmzi521opft/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_cp1_s6.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/zby9rvopry2w2zc/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_cp1_cp80.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/04uq3ngug68s6y1/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_cp1v101_cf.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/53qtzzzl763zcit/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_cp1v101_s6.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/kdsp5qbtib3697t/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_cp1_cf_symp_res.mp3
Recored by "jve".
Notes: "These were recorded using V1.10 of the CP1 firmware. However, I also recorded the CF and S6 grands before updating the firmware (using V1.01), in case someone wants to compare the two. V1.10 is supposed to have some tweaks in the dynamics, but whether the CF and S6 are affected I'm not sure. V1.10 also has the new damper resonance setting, but I didn't use it for these recordings as I don't find it particularly interesting."
"The CP80 sample is audibly inferior to the acoustic grands, which no doubt will be visible in a DPBSD analysis."
Review: TBA
---------------------------
Yamaha CP5
mp3s:
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/lgd0gkem0kcl3ee/DPBSD_v2.0-Yamaha-CP5-CP80-Dry.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/5272d768j9g7j35/DPBSD_v2.0-Yamaha-CP5-CP80-MaxDecay.mp3
Recorded by: "willi":
Review: TBA
---------------------------
Yamaha CP33
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/4ag9qr28f1xprad/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_cp33.mp3
Recorded by: "Jamanota:
Review: TBA
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Yamaha CVP407
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/hmvoavddb8v8h1f/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_cvp407.mp3
Recorded by: "Pollux":
Notes: "MIDI rendered to WAV directly on the CVP-407"
WAV=>MP3 Audition 3.0
Review: TBA
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Yamaha DGX-650
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/v64kk22y2dx98qj/dpbsd_yamaha_dgx_650_02.mp3
Recorded by: "Afzal_Ballim":
Review: TBA
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Yamaha DGX650
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/v97u6a1u7plu1wi/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_dgx650.mp3
Recorded by: "MartasK":
Notes: "the MIDI sequence I sent to DGX from an ultrabook via MIDI-USB connection and using freeware Anvil Studio. The audio has been recorded into flash memory connected to the DGX directly via its USB port (DGX650 has the function Audio Record to USB)."
Review: TBA
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Yamaha N1
mp3s:
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/4yis9zr82zzdc8a/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_n1_voice1.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/mfdwhxk5c5hajfs/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_n1_voice2.mp3
Recorded by: "Wess. Chr. K":
Notes: "The tested pianos are Yamaha Avant Grand N1 with first and second voices (the second one probably is kind of EQ-ed "N1's voice 1", but just for the record – it is on disposal)
01.
Please, note that half or partial pedaling on N1 involves different values from the given ones in your MIDI-test.
I checked a project of mine and the exact numbers that were recorded when the right pedal was pressed down are:
0, 4, 6, 12, 14, 20, 24, 35, 41, 50, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 63, 66, 68, 70, 72, 74, 76, 77, 79, 127
That was a slow piece, but for detailed test I should do something in very fast
tempo.
02.
The maximum velocity on N1 is not 127. At most 116 in lower register and at most 120 at highest. It is due to key bed. And those values are reached only by "karate" kicks. Normally 96-104 (low end) to 108 and a bit more at higher keys.
The audio of Yamaha N1 was recorded via "Steinberg MI4" interface.
The host was Cubase 7 for MAC."
Review: TBA
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Yamaha NU1
mp3s:
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/n2z61e43j0b370n/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_nu1.mp3
- http://www.mediafire.com/listen/75q64jx37hwf0ga/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_nu1_symp_res.mp3
Recorded by: "helloworld1":
Review: TBA
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Yamaha PSR-S710
mp3: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/vp0948faqrt4m65/dpbsd_v2.0_yamaha_psr-s710.mp3
Recorded by: "Edtek"
Notes: "I recorded using the aux/out jacks to the mic input to my pc. I used WavePad for everything: recording, extracting the 88key portions (cutting the beginning and ending to just leave the 88keys portion), examining the waveforms, and saving as wav and mp3 files."
Review: TBA
---------------------------

Last edited by dewster; 02/03/15 05:48 PM.
Re: The DPBSD Project! [Re: dewster] #2338225 10/17/14 01:00 AM
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Hey dewster, it happens to everyone's life that conditions (and interests) change and you need to give space to some new things and as a consequence drop others.

I wish to thank you for the good and hard work you did so far, setting a rigorous methodology and giving the community a lot of useful information on a very large number of products thumb

PS: with regards to the above post, I suggest that you also indicate the submission date of each item, so that also the comments will be put in the correct timeline (i.e. related to products available at that time, which may have changed)

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You are welcome Maxpiano, and thank you very much for your submission!

I updated index in the first post of this thread to reflect the new additions (links and honor roll).

Many, many thanks to the unreviewed submitters:

4 Aeons_Holle
1 Afzal_Ballim
5 anotherscott
1 Bane
1 cmin
1 Damien_Salvador
1 duinsel
1 Edtek
1 Erard
1 gozoogle
1 helloworld1
1 imyself
1 Jamanota
1 JFP
1 jve
1 MartasK
1 Maxpiano
7 mromagnani
1 Pedro_Ruiz
1 Pollux
1 render
3 Soren Jorvang
1 supertorpe
1 TheodorN
2 Wess. Chr. K
1 willi

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You're right about the PX-5S, it's Hall2 in the reverb. Whatever that means, is Hall2 in the Casi PX-5S the same as Hall2 elsewhere?


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