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GHS improved over time? #2304646
07/21/14 02:12 AM
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I am 'doremi' because I play scales smile
Had I progressed to playing chords,
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Re: GHS improved over time? [Re: doremi] #2307605
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i feel so at least from my P105. it has GHS but feel like improved GH. i tried a few Yamaha DPs recently, and found out even on P35, the action feels good, not to mention P255. i do think Yamaha has slightly improved the actions (GH, GHS) on at least stage DPs in recent years. i am not sure about Arius series though, and tried it lately and didn't really like its action, which felt odd a bit to me.

Re: GHS improved over time? [Re: doremi] #2307663
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Some of us would hope it doesn`t stop there; my biggest fear is GH will become the bottom end norm . .mind you, there could be a light version introduced for younger fingers. Call it GHL if you like.


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Re: GHS improved over time? [Re: doremi] #2307728
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What's all that goop under the keys in that video, or am I just seeing things?

Re: GHS improved over time? [Re: doremi] #2308952
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Yeah, we've king of been saying for years that while Yamaha calls their actions the same thing for years and years, they must be making small changes here and there. I have played GH3 actions made in very different years and to me they seemed quite different. I could never tell what was my imagination and what was real. It's nice to see some hard evidence of changes over the years to show I'm not completely crazy.

David, the goop under the keys is a thick layer of white grease. Every digital piano from every manufacturer I've seen seems to have tons of white grease slathered over their mechanisms in a not-very-precise manner. I presume it's a long-lasting teflon-style lubricant. We've had people in the past complaining about their actions who got them serviced and essentially all the tech did was slop some more goop on them. It's amazing to think of grease as a permanent addition to the piano, presumably not requring maintenance for most people, but that's the way it seems to be.

Re: GHS improved over time? [Re: doremi] #2323808
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A little miracle happened in my neck of the woods, I was able to play test a MOXF8 which has one of the most recent versions of GHS. Very nice feeling action, so much so that I played for a longer while and the middle-aged or even mature-looking salesman said to me: "My mother would die for your music!" shocked

Anyway, to say something negative, at pianissimo I do feel a little bounce back from the bottoming out of the key as if the action could benefit from a somewhat thicker felt under the keys. Otherwise, great playing with the 'Full Concert Grand' sound cool

Anyone else has play tested the MOXF8?


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MOXF/Motif APs/EPs [Re: doremi] #2343480
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Originally Posted by doremi
A little miracle happened in my neck of the woods, I was able to play test a MOXF8 which has one of the most recent versions of GHS. Very nice feeling action, so much so that I played for a longer while and the middle-aged or even mature-looking salesman said to me: "My mother would die for your music!" shocked

Anyway, to say something negative, at pianissimo I do feel a little bounce back from the bottoming out of the key as if the action could benefit from a somewhat thicker felt under the keys. Otherwise, great playing with the 'Full Concert Grand' sound cool

Anyone else has play tested the MOXF8?


I play tested the MOXF8 again and I still like the sound and action. Moreover, there is now a 2GB flash memory module available from a third party vendor (Mutec) that you can load with Yamaha or third party APs/EPs, my main means for making noise grin

I know it's subjective, but anyone care to comment on the APs/EPs that you can load into the MOXF8/Mutec? Sound, playability, finger-to-sound connection, etc.

(The demos always sound good)


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Had I progressed to playing chords,
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Re: MOXF/Motif APs/EPs [Re: doremi] #2343503
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Coincidentally, I just posted in another thread about how I think the MOXF is often overlooked as a very viable DP choice (at http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2343354/ ).

I have a flash card and a number of pianos to load into it, I just haven't had a chance yet. I'm looking forward to it, I should be able to get to it next month.

Re: MOXF/Motif APs/EPs [Re: anotherscott] #2343519
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Ah, the pioneer smile

Do start a new thread with a conspicuous title, please!

Moreover, compare the flash enhanced MOXF to the Nord that you also have, especially with regard to APs, EPs. Wonderful!


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Re: MOXF/Motif APs/EPs [Re: doremi] #2343620
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There are other more informative video than this one. My old Dgx620 was noisy with hard bottoming. The later models are not.
An important consideration. When pressing the black notes up to the console, see how far down they go. I estimate around 4 millimetres which indicates clearly that there is a staggered difference between the white and black key bending point, where it matters. It isn't a pivot in the normal sense. Yamaha have put a lot of thought and ingenuity into this IMO.


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