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Hello,

I've been following the forum for quite some time and reading the comments on various digital pianos, but finally decided to register to ask for some advice. I am planning to buy a digital piano soon and I've narrowed my choices to Yamaha CLP-430 and Kawai CA65. To see them personally, I went to several stores today, and to me, a complete beginner, both of them felt and sounded great. And in terms of price, I got some really great discounts from different sellers for both of these pianos. But I can't decide which one I should choose. I am hoping someone experienced here could give me some advice.

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ilkergoksen, welcome to the forum.

Both instruments are very good, and will serve you well as a beginner.

Personally speaking, I believe the CA65 is the superior instrument, as it offers a superior keyboard action (100% real wooden keys) and more advanced sound technology (88-key piano sampling). The Kawai is also rather more feature rich, with MP3/WAV playback and recording to USB, a graphic LCD display, and many Virtual Technician parameters for customising the sound.

Please note that Yamaha have introduced the new CLP-5x5 series of instruments, that represent a considerable improvement over the previous generation models. The CLP-545, for example, is a much closer competitor to the CA65 than the CLP-430 you are considering.

I hope this helps.

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Or maybe the Yamaha CLP-470. The CLP 400 series are being discontinued with the 500 series introduction. You may get a good deal on a 470.

With that being said, the 545 has all of the latest greatest "stuff" in it.

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I don't know how you can compare the CLP430 to CA65, when the price difference is like 700USD between them.
The CA65 is superior (and that word in not enough) to the CLP 430 in every aspect.
As theoak wrote, you can look for discounted 470 model, which is comparable to CA65, or look for Roland or new series of Yamaha.

Sorry, we will not tell you which one is better. This is a choice like "hey guys should I marry blonde or brunette". It's personal taste. 470-545-CA65-HP506 you need to play and choose the one you like. Otherwise, you may like or not like at all the piano.

If you are complete begginer, but that one that feel more comfortable with sound and touch. As for the older Yamahas, me (and not only) thinks that they are like few years back in technology to the CA65 or New rolands (or even older rolands), however, I did not played the new CLP5xx series, so I cannot comment on them.

They are so different, that you need to try and take the one you like better. If you are unedecided, which one to choose, because they are equally superior to you, buy the one which is cheaper or better looking.

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From a tech perspective you will get more bang for your buck via Roland or Kawai.

To me, Yamaha is kind of like Apple, in that you will pay a premium for their products. It does not mean though that their products are better. They just think they are wink

If I were to invest in a Yamaha however, it would be a CLP-535 or higher. Yamaha as improved the action and comes with newer piano sounds.

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Originally Posted by theoak
From a tech perspective you will get more bang for your buck via Roland or Kawai.

To me, Yamaha is kind of like Apple, in that you will pay a premium for their products. It does not mean though that their products are better. They just think they are wink

Apple knows its products are better, and knows everyone else knows that too, only they won't admit it (because they're stuck with PCs for whatever reason).

Whereas Yamaha thinks its products are better, but knows everyone else in the know knows otherwise......... wink


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Originally Posted by theoak
From a tech perspective you will get more bang for your buck via Roland or Kawai.

To me, Yamaha is kind of like Apple, in that you will pay a premium for their products. It does not mean though that their products are better. They just think they are wink

Apple knows its products are better, and knows everyone else knows that too, only they won't admit it (because they're stuck with PCs for whatever reason).

Whereas Yamaha thinks its products are better, but knows everyone else in the know knows otherwise......... wink


if your sentenes both are with ";)" than I agree wink
REgarding Apple... well.. in really hundreds of things they are years behind the current. but apple is a religion, not the tech-wise buying. Remember please, that firt iphone was completely bought from chinese company. They just improved it and then sold as their big success made from scratch. Overprices toys for apple fundamentalists. BTW, Apple stuff is hanging also often, not less than Android, I have both so I can say wink

REgarding the Yamaha I agree smile
Overprices because of name and recognition, to less value for money, well, at least in digital pianos (to the 4xx series). I am curious of the 5xx series. Maybe I will change my opinion wink

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Not wishing to drift too far off-topic, but...

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Remember please, that firt iphone was completely bought from chinese company. They just improved it and then sold as their big success made from scratch.


I was not aware of this, and would be interested to learn more about the iPhone's origins if you're able to provide a link. Of course, I understand that the product is manufactured in China, however I had always assumed that the original concept was designed by Apple in California. Is this not the case?

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Thank you all for the replies. The reason I am comparing these two is because I got very similar prices for these two pianos from two different stores. As I understand from visiting at least 6-7 stores in the last week, music stores are having a hard time financially here in Turkey, so they are giving extra discounts to attract the customers. I got a good price for Kawai CA65 and bought it. I also tried Yamaha CLP440, CLP430 and Kawai CA65 side by side, and liked the Kawai better. Now I am waiting for the delivery and looking forward to learning.

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Congrats on your new piano. You've chosen an instrument you can 'grow into' over the years as you learn how to play. The CA-65 has a very highly regarded action which will give you a nice realistic feel at the keyboard and good control over the piano sound. Hope you enjoy it very much.


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