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Sherlock Manning Piano - worth buying? #230060
01/14/09 01:57 PM
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Hi there,

Looking for a first piano for my daughters. Nothing fancy (read: expensive), but enough to hold us over a few years until they show us they really want to stick with it.

A friend of a friend has a Sherlock Manning for sale. There's a plate with 19776 written on it. Other than that, it has sherlock manning embossed on the inside and london, where it was manufactured.

Can anyone suggest what this type of piano (which looks beautiful - but I know that means little and a piano technician would be a wise investment) would be worth?

Thanks.

Dan

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Re: Sherlock Manning Piano - worth buying? #230061
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Hi Canadian Piano. Since your daughters are just beginning and may or may not stick with the piano (they will appreciate it in the future so I suggest you have them stick to it for at least three years) your best bet may be to a. Rent one out
or b. Get a digital weighted-key piano.

A digital piano with weighted keys is an economic option and will work for a year or two until your girls get serious. They don't need tuning and are much more portable. I recommend looking into a Casio or Yamaha piano. The reason I would not recommend buying an acoustic piano is the one you're looking at is probably pretty old and the action may be similarly less than desirable. If you want to get rid of it in the future you would have to pay someone to drag it off of your property. As always when buying an acoustic piano, have a certified tech look into it.

Good luck.


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Re: Sherlock Manning Piano - worth buying? #230062
01/15/09 10:20 AM
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That's good advice - thank you!

Dan

Re: Sherlock Manning Piano - worth buying? #230063
01/15/09 11:07 AM
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Not so fast. I'm not convinced buying a digital in your situation is a good idea.

You should be able to find a decent used piano for the same price you will pay for a decent digital. Let's look at the outcomes possible:

1. You buy a digital and they lose interest - You can likely sell a used digital for about 40% of it price when new.

2. You buy a digital and they stick to learning - you sell or trade-in the digital for about 40% of it price when new.

3. You buy a used acoustic and they lose interest - you sell the used acoustic for very close to the same price you paid, as it was depreciated when you purchased it. The selling price of say a 15 year-old piano is about the same as an indentical but 20 year old model.

4. You buy a used acoustic and they stick to learning - you either keep the acoustic or sell it for about what you paid for it and buy, with confidence in its utility, a better piano.

IMHO, in your situation buying a new digital doesn't make sense.


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Re: Sherlock Manning Piano - worth buying? #230064
01/15/09 11:50 AM
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I would agree with Cohen here……..

Sherlock Manning # 19776 built in the old W. D. Doherty factory in Clinton Ontario in 1919. In original condition, this instrument is worth a couple of hundred bucks at best. Really it depends upon whether or not it has had some upgrades over the years like copper bass string replacements and things of this nature. Best to have a technician check it previous to purchase.

I would encourage you to stay away from the digital market. In reality this is the electronics market, which is primarily based on consumption, not longevity. Even used, a weighted digital piano will cost considerably more than an old acoustic. Moreover, there is no guarantee if you purchase a used digital that parts are available, especially if it is a deleted or discontinued model. Many times a small part unavailable will render the electronic instruments useless. Purchase a new one? In 5 yrs. it is worthless because of the new models out….just like computers……….

If the only complaint about an acoustic is tuning and regular maintenance then there really is no complaint at all. The kids don’t like piano after a year or so? Then there is the family down the street that would like to try…..

Dan Silverwood
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Re: Sherlock Manning Piano - worth buying? #230065
02/11/09 06:16 AM
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Hi we just go a Doherty piano from a friend. The serial number is 6421. Would it have been mad by Doherty or by Sherlock manning? It is a starter piano for my son who is going to take Suzuki lessons and I plan to relearn it myself...hey 42 is not too old to go back to something I've missed since I had to stop. Any help on serial numbers would be great

Re: Sherlock Manning Piano - worth buying? #230066
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About 1915.... SM took over 1920...Made in Clinton


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Re: Sherlock Manning Piano - worth buying? #230067
02/12/09 05:46 PM
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thanks Richard!! i thought It would have been between 1910 and 1920. If it's okay can I send you a pic of the piano. I'm debating if I should take the blue paint off (I would really like to) of if I should repaint it brown or black. It was in a kindergarten room and I guess blue was good for the kids.

Re: Sherlock Manning Piano - worth buying? #230068
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thanks Richard!! i thought It would have been between 1910 and 1920. If it's okay can I send you a pic of the piano. I'm debating if I should take the blue paint off (I would really like to) of if I should repaint it brown or black. It was in a kindergarten room and I guess blue was good for the kids.


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