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#2299107 - 07/06/14 06:47 AM Need some recomendations for addons for a silent grand  
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Hi all,

I was fortunate enough to just purchase a new Yamaha C7X SH. I primarily got the silent feature so it could be hooked to a set of speakers, not really for headphone use, so when I have people over, I can entertain using the digital sounds as well as the acoustic ones. There are a few things I want to buy, but I'd like to get some input first, because I don't want to just throw money away.

  • I want to buy either a Yamaha Motif Rack XS or a Roland Integra 7, and plug it in the MIDI In on the sound module. This can be done right? I assume that's what the MIDI In is for. The 19 sounds on the SH module itself isn't satisfactory for my needs.
  • What speakers should I buy for this? I'm looking at a pair of the Yamaha DXR15 or DSR15. Is this overkill for my needs? Would I appreciate the quality of these speakers for this purpose? I've noticed that Roland sells speakers specifically for keyboards, so maybe this would be a better choice?


Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Jason

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#2299135 - 07/06/14 09:53 AM Re: Need some recomendations for addons for a silent grand [Re: Jason Soby]  
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You may want to ask this question on the Piano World "Digital Pianos - Synth & Keyboards" forum. The question of best speakers has come up many times.

Your choice of a passive PA speaker is probably a good choice. I recommend that you go to a nearby Guitar Center, or a music store that has a full line of pro sound. I would avoid Roland keyboard amps.


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#2299138 - 07/06/14 10:01 AM Re: Need some recomendations for addons for a silent grand [Re: Jason Soby]  
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MIDI data doesn't carry any sound, only events about timing and velocity of notes played/to be played. So MIDI is like the rolls used on a player piano.

About adding external synths/sound modules, you can but you will instead plug them in the MIDI OUT of your SH piano.

So your SH piano MIDI OUT --> External modules MIDI IN

On your piano, the MIDI IN serves for an external sequencer or computer MIDI OUT to trigger the sounds in your SH module.

So using a computer, you can play on your SH piano and record a performance (SH MIDI OUT --> sequencer/computer MIDI IN), then use your recorded MIDI file to trigger your SH or other sound modules (sequencer/computer MIDI OUT --> SH/sound modules MIDI IN).

#2299153 - 07/06/14 11:40 AM Re: Need some recomendations for addons for a silent grand [Re: Jason Soby]  
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Tony, thank you for your input on the speakers. That's good enough for me. I was just curious if those were a terrible choice, which it seems not to be. Also, I posted here because I thought a question primarily related to a Yamaha acoustic was better suited for here.

Bosen, my mind went completely blank. thank you! I had a Kurzweil MicroPiano years ago, and I totally forgot how it works. So I guess the SH device is simply a passthrough, yes? The speakers would end up being plugged into the Motif Rack XS, right?

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#2299156 - 07/06/14 12:22 PM Re: Need some recomendations for addons for a silent grand [Re: Jason Soby]  
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Jason, it depends - if you plan to use only sounds from external modules like a Motif or Roland, I would connect their audio outs directly into your new amplified speakers inputs. Connect the audio/aux outputs of your SH in the new amplified speakers inputs only if you want to hear the SH sounds. Again MIDI outs/ins for MIDI, and audio outs/ins for sound.

I also agree with Tony to choose something else than Roland - their sound isn't clean/"flat" at all. Another point to consider will be how many inputs are available on your new amplified speakers. If you plan to use several sources/sound modules, you might also need a mixer if there's not enough inputs on the amplified speakers.

#2299249 - 07/06/14 07:33 PM Re: Need some recomendations for addons for a silent grand [Re: Jason Soby]  
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Is there a way to have them both active at once? I don't think so, since the midi plug 'disables' the SH source sounds.

#2299311 - 07/06/14 09:58 PM Re: Need some recomendations for addons for a silent grand [Re: Jason Soby]  
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Almost certain you can use the SH sounds plus any other external module(s) simultaneously.

#2299994 - 07/08/14 06:51 PM Re: Need some recomendations for addons for a silent grand [Re: Jason Soby]  
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Thank you both for your help. I really appreciate it.


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