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Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: J Abbott] #2292992
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Recommendations for Stuttgart: Pfeiffer.


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Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: J Abbott] #2293012
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j, when i got my steingraeber last summer i wrote a 5-part series on my blog about the piano search and what i learned.

here's part 5 ... it links back to the 1st 4 posts.

http://www.polishookstudio.com/2013/12/on-picking-piano-part-5.html

if you're able to stopover in london you might have an interesting time visiting hurstwood farm piano in surrey - which is a short train ride ... not far at all. they're a piano shop like no other. they specialise in steingraeber and phoenix. phoenix is they're own brand. it's basically is a steingraeber with a lot of modifications. just as a place to visit for anyone interested in pianos it's an amazing place - even if only just to broaden out knowledge. .... richard dain has a collection of pianos there at any time that can be really, well, thought provoking and astounding.

well ... none of can be everywhere at once ... but when we're looking for pianos it'd be a nice ability to have!

Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: Mark Polishook] #2293461
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Mark,
fascinating reading thanks

There is a used Hamburg Steinway O at Pro Piano for about 60K
I'll hopefully have a shot at it when I get back....



Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: J Abbott] #2293544
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Estonia 190 ( also very nice and a possible candidate )


Try to get your hands on the new 6'10 Estonia 210
A truly phenomenal piano, belongs really to tier 1...

http://www.estoniapiano.com/210.html



Norbert

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Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: J Abbott] #2293753
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Originally Posted by J Abbott
Mark,
fascinating reading thanks

There is a used Hamburg Steinway O at Pro Piano for about 60K
I'll hopefully have a shot at it when I get back....


Glad the posts were helpful ...

In the category of "boogie man lurks everywhere" smile ...

Many miles ago I knew on my gigs in NYC if Pro Piano had supplied the piano it was going to be a great instrument - in tune, and excellent condition, etc.. Because my experience w/their pianos was always excellent.

That said an instrument from a professional for-hire company is probably going to be a 'hire' piano - probably w/a lot of professional miles on it. I don't know if by itself that's significant or not. But thought I'd mention it in any event.

Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: J Abbott] #2294108
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Hello Jim A,

If you happen to travel towards the Boston area Larry Buck in Lowell has three different models of Steingraebers set up from the 5'7" and up and wow what an instrment.

The action is flawless and the tone is clear and powerful from note 1 to note 88 and very well balanced.

Well good luck on your quest.


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Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: woodfab] #2294210
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Anyone else on the forum ever bought a piano from Pro Piano ?
I know their reputation for rentals is good, just wondering if anyone had a sales experience with them
definitely want to try the Steingrabers as well
Played the Estonia ( both models) and like them pretty well, definitely a piano that's in the running
also the August Forester 190 I played I liked a lot

I'm going monday to the Steinway dealer in Stuttgart, also too piano Fischer to play the Fazoli and Grotians there as well as their own brand????
will post about that experience...

Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: J Abbott] #2294228
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Don't forget Pfeiffer, they're in Leonberg near Stuttgart and build fantastic pianos!

Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: J Abbott] #2294345
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From what I've people saying (and not based on my own experience), the piano closest to the Hamburg Steinway is the Estonia. Is it that you are looking for a fantastic piano, or is it that you are looking for a Hamburg Steinway in particular? I mean, a Hamburg Steinway IS a fantastic piano, one of the best, but it always comes at such a high price even used.

I would like to try Pfeiffer - how many people on this forum have had first hand experience with that maker?

Someone else mentioned Bluthner - yes, they are a wonderful piano but they are quite a different sound world from the Hamburg Steinway, in fact they are quite a different sound world from most other pianos. They have such a distinctive sound that some pianists hate the Bluthner while others revere the Bluthner. I've never heard anyone say anything lukewarm about a Bluthner - it's either a resounding love or hate. Try it, you might find that it's the one for you, or you might not connect with it at all!

What I like about your style is that you are trying lots of different makes. Most people limit themselves to one, or maybe three or four, but it seems you are trying to sniff out every piano you can in your price range.

I'm quite public about my love for Bluthner and Steinway, but the individual piano that captivated me most, was a Grotrian 192 I played in a shop once, recently. It was when I was considering a Shigeru or a Yamaha, and I played the Shigeru and thought, hmmm, good piano, really good. Then I played the Yamaha S in another place, and the Yamaha C5x, and thought, yeah, really good pianos. Then, I played the Grotrian and I didn't know whether I was going to cry or.... well, you get the idea. Anyway I didn't buy it because I had set my budget at 25,000 MAX which pushed the Yamaha S out of my search too. In the end I got something really beautiful for far less than my budget (which is always good), but I'll always have a damp spot for the Grotrian. Soft spot I mean. Soft.

Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: joe80] #2294452
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Dear joe80:

Norbert is the one to consult on the subject of Pfeiffer. He LOVES them.

Karl Watson,
Staten Island, NY

Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: Karl Watson] #2294506
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OK I'm gonna try to get to Pfeiffer too not as easy to get to but hey I'm here....

Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: J Abbott] #2294546
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Thanks to Piano World and it's members I've had the incredible chance to play some wonderful pianos.
Ranging from $25,000 to $150,000 and not just for a few minuets but up to an hour or more.

So far one of the pianos I found to be in the financial reach of players looking for a great piano for a high performance action and superb tonal balance I found that the Steinberg AC188 is quite a great deal.





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Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: J Abbott] #2294582
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Is that a typo I wonder? Very good!


Currently working towards "Twinkle twinkle little star"
Re: Hamburg Steinway in NY Aera [Re: Karl Watson] #2297065
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OK
played my first Faziolis today
Wow! really remarkable dynamics and beautiful singing tone
a used 183 that I could probably get back to the states for around $65,000 or so
really remarkable pianos
played some rebuilt Hamburg steinways
very nice and definitely different from the NY steinways but not cheap
going to try new ones tomorrow
also played some Grotian-Steinweg , a little thin and brittle for me
also the Bechsteins again, sounding very good as well, seemed to be set up a little better here than in NY, but didn't really hold up against the Fazioli

also a very nice used Bosendofer 190, just a bit too dark for my taste but also really responsive..
so the top 2 contenders currently are the Fazioli and the rebuilt NY 1940's model L Steinway, with the August Forester and Academy Bechstein lurking in the good but lower priced area
also gonna play the Hamburg Steinway at Pro Piano soon
and still have to play the Steingraber
but I'm at least eliminating some brands ( Grotian, Bose, Schimmel)
Anybody had a bad experience flaying a piano from Europe to America?

also a big thanks to the people at Piano Fischer, they couldn't have been nicer or more helpful...


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